engine not turning prob.

inneedofhelp · 25th February 2008, 19:57

hi all,
having a little, intermitent problem turning the engine.
sometimes i have to turn the key up to a dozen times before the engine turns.
it's as if the auto gear box is in gear, which obviously it isn't. as per a previous post, i ended up with a flat battery, this fault has only happened since i fixed that problem.
could it be connected ? any ideas anyone?
cheers

stocktake · 25th February 2008, 20:09

Sounds exactly the problem I had with my 2.5 auto. every now and again just as if it had been left in a gear.

It was the starter motor contacts in the motor.

When the solenoid activates, it throws what is like a large copper disk so it bridges two heavy contacts. This then engages the starter motor. What has probably happened is the copper disc and the contacts have been pitted and not making contact.
I took out my starter motor ( not too hard ) removed the cover for the solenoid and cleaned the disc and contacts. Never missed a start for around 3 month now.

HTH

inneedofhelp · 25th February 2008, 20:14

cheers stocktake.
will give that a try

stocktake · 25th February 2008, 20:21

No Problem, 99% certain that will be the cause. If I get a min I will take some pictures of a spare one i have and show you just where it can be found, I am not even sure if you could reach it without even taking the starter off. (its under the battery box by the way, well I didn't know that when i was looking for it first time)

when you looking at it anyway?

inneedofhelp · 25th February 2008, 21:15

thanks stocktake,
took me a while to find the starter before when i had the battery problem, i presume you have to take the battery box off to get to the starter?

stocktake · 26th February 2008, 06:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by inneedofhelp

thanks stocktake,
took me a while to find the starter before when i had the battery problem, i presume you have to take the battery box off to get to the starter?

Oh Yes......... off with the battery box, then three bolts and two wires and the starter will come out, it is a bit fiddly .

inneedofhelp · 26th February 2008, 10:10

cheers,
you've been a great help

25th February 2008, 19:57	#1
inneedofhelp Regular poster rover 75 Connoiseur 2.5 v6 auto Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: n. wales Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	engine not turning prob. hi all, having a little, intermitent problem turning the engine. sometimes i have to turn the key up to a dozen times before the engine turns. it's as if the auto gear box is in gear, which obviously it isn't. as per a previous post, i ended up with a flat battery, this fault has only happened since i fixed that problem. could it be connected ? any ideas anyone? cheers

25th February 2008, 20:09	#2
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,604 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	Sounds exactly the problem I had with my 2.5 auto. every now and again just as if it had been left in a gear. It was the starter motor contacts in the motor. When the solenoid activates, it throws what is like a large copper disk so it bridges two heavy contacts. This then engages the starter motor. What has probably happened is the copper disc and the contacts have been pitted and not making contact. I took out my starter motor ( not too hard ) removed the cover for the solenoid and cleaned the disc and contacts. Never missed a start for around 3 month now. HTH __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

25th February 2008, 20:21	#4
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,604 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	No Problem, 99% certain that will be the cause. If I get a min I will take some pictures of a spare one i have and show you just where it can be found, I am not even sure if you could reach it without even taking the starter off. (its under the battery box by the way, well I didn't know that when i was looking for it first time) when you looking at it anyway? __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

25th February 2008, 20:14	#3
inneedofhelp Regular poster rover 75 Connoiseur 2.5 v6 auto Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: n. wales Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	cheers stocktake. will give that a try

25th February 2008, 21:15	#5
inneedofhelp Regular poster rover 75 Connoiseur 2.5 v6 auto Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: n. wales Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks stocktake, took me a while to find the starter before when i had the battery problem, i presume you have to take the battery box off to get to the starter?

26th February 2008, 10:10	#7
inneedofhelp Regular poster rover 75 Connoiseur 2.5 v6 auto Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: n. wales Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	cheers, you've been a great help