If you saw the latest Post Office advert...

Zeb · 16th October 2007, 21:13

.... in which they refer to the Post Office as 'an institution' and use the slogan 'The people's Post Office' may I encourage you all to get on to the ASA website and register your outrage at the crass arrogance of the organisation given that they are currently attempting to shut thousands of much-needed POs across the country? I am incensed!

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_com...mplaints_form/

AURORA MG · 16th October 2007, 21:41

I saw this advert a few minutes ago & immediately thaught it would provoke discussion! A quick PR attempt I guess after the recent issues.

JohnDotCom · 16th October 2007, 21:45

I have had two Packages waiting for Collection when I took another around today at Post Office, still there, told sorting office full and no room!
All recorded or Special Delivery and over a week now due to Official and Wildcat Strikes.
Service.....Its a NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- joke.

Timbo.P6 · 17th October 2007, 10:32

I agree, lots of small businesses are suffering because of their strikes,and they want our sympathy

Pete · 17th October 2007, 10:43

An old friend of mine works for them, started as a postie and worked his way up to management. I saw him last week and his comments about the workforce at the sorting office he's based at weren't particularly nice to say the least. Words such as ignorant, lazy and incompetent were some of the printable ones I can use here. But he is concerned about his pension too, and he's seething at the post office closures programme. Basically his attitude is that the current Government has gone way further than even Thatcher would have dared and they've engineered to cripple a perfectly good public service so that the likes of TNT can grasp more money.

JohnDotCom · 17th October 2007, 11:47

But the Royal Mail still have to deliver TNT and others letters at a loss, on Government orders and let others cherry pick what to cover.
They charge less per letter to deliver by Government imposed rules than we can buy a 2nd class stamp for.
Not supporting them but it should be fair always and if TNT and others want to deliver letters and take your money let them do it with their Postmen/women at a correct price!

tourerfogey · 17th October 2007, 12:16

It should be remembered that the 'Post Office' is a completely different entity to 'Royal Mail'.

JohnFol · 17th October 2007, 13:58

and is it still true to say, neither are state owned?

JohnDotCom · 17th October 2007, 14:04

Just State Controlled and Ruined.

Pete · 17th October 2007, 14:16

I'll attempt to get the structure right if I can. I could do with my old mucker here but seeing as he's at work and I've lost his mobile number again that's not very possible

Royal Mail is a plc but it is owned by the Government. If you remember there was a lot of talk about it being privatised but it didn't happen for a variety of reasons, mainly political. Royal Mail did change it's name to Consignia for a short time but the kickback against this re-branding ensured that the old name returned pretty smartish. Post Office Limited - which operates the retail outlets - is a subsidiary of Royal Mail group and therefore is not a completely different entity as suggested above; it is not independent of Royal Mail.

16th October 2007, 21:13	#1
Zeb Banned MGZT V8 & ZTT 190+LPG Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,089 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you saw the latest Post Office advert... .... in which they refer to the Post Office as 'an institution' and use the slogan 'The people's Post Office' may I encourage you all to get on to the ASA website and register your outrage at the crass arrogance of the organisation given that they are currently attempting to shut thousands of much-needed POs across the country? I am incensed! http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_com...mplaints_form/ Last edited by Zeb; 16th October 2007 at 21:25..

17th October 2007, 10:43	#5
Pete Owners Club Director Rover 75 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sherfield-on-Loddon Posts: 4,876 Thanks: 137 Thanked 996 Times in 444 Posts	An old friend of mine works for them, started as a postie and worked his way up to management. I saw him last week and his comments about the workforce at the sorting office he's based at weren't particularly nice to say the least. Words such as ignorant, lazy and incompetent were some of the printable ones I can use here. But he is concerned about his pension too, and he's seething at the post office closures programme. Basically his attitude is that the current Government has gone way further than even Thatcher would have dared and they've engineered to cripple a perfectly good public service so that the likes of TNT can grasp more money. __________________ Follow The Club On Twitter

17th October 2007, 14:16	#10
Pete Owners Club Director Rover 75 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sherfield-on-Loddon Posts: 4,876 Thanks: 137 Thanked 996 Times in 444 Posts	I'll attempt to get the structure right if I can. I could do with my old mucker here but seeing as he's at work and I've lost his mobile number again that's not very possible Royal Mail is a plc but it is owned by the Government. If you remember there was a lot of talk about it being privatised but it didn't happen for a variety of reasons, mainly political. Royal Mail did change it's name to Consignia for a short time but the kickback against this re-branding ensured that the old name returned pretty smartish. Post Office Limited - which operates the retail outlets - is a subsidiary of Royal Mail group and therefore is not a completely different entity as suggested above; it is not independent of Royal Mail. __________________ Follow The Club On Twitter

16th October 2007, 21:41	#2
AURORA MG Banned (EX)-ZT-T190SE in Aurora. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Medway Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 42 Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts	I saw this advert a few minutes ago & immediately thaught it would provoke discussion! A quick PR attempt I guess after the recent issues.

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JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I have had two Packages waiting for Collection when I took another around today at Post Office, still there, told sorting office full and no room! All recorded or Special Delivery and over a week now due to Official and Wildcat Strikes. Service.....Its a NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- joke.

17th October 2007, 10:32	#4
Timbo.P6 Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR T SE WITH MISSING SATNAV ROVER P6 2000 SC Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Doncaster Posts: 1,484 Thanks: 429 Thanked 77 Times in 44 Posts	I agree, lots of small businesses are suffering because of their strikes,and they want our sympathy

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JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	But the Royal Mail still have to deliver TNT and others letters at a loss, on Government orders and let others cherry pick what to cover. They charge less per letter to deliver by Government imposed rules than we can buy a 2nd class stamp for. Not supporting them but it should be fair always and if TNT and others want to deliver letters and take your money let them do it with their Postmen/women at a correct price!

17th October 2007, 12:16	#7
tourerfogey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It should be remembered that the 'Post Office' is a completely different entity to 'Royal Mail'.

17th October 2007, 13:58	#8
JohnFol Gets stuck in 75 Conn SE - XVWY* Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reading Posts: 564 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	and is it still true to say, neither are state owned?

17th October 2007, 14:04	#9
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Just State Controlled and Ruined.