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Old 5th November 2019, 07:47   #21
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Nearly bought a Bordeaux saloon but it was a coupe I wanted, the saloon was a far better example but it was also 4 grand dearer
You get more car for your money with a saloon. More wood, more headroom, more legroom & bigger rear seats. You never saw Prime Ministers in a coupe.

There were two of those campers, the 3.5 & a 3 litre which l think was broken up as it had deteriorated too much. They were created back in the day when the cars were current, possibly by the same owner, IIRC. I saw them together once at Brooklands, at an owner's club national rally. I took mine for a spin up on the members banking. You weren't supposed to but rules are for breaking. You can't get on it now unless the museum hires it from Mercedes.
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Old 5th November 2019, 08:02   #22
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My dad used to run jags around the same time, so I was always disappointed by the P5's dash, but there is a reason why Government ministers were using them long after they had gone out of production.
I love the dash, very David Bache, well designed & ergonomic rather than cutting holes in a plank of wood.
I put the extra coupe clocks in my saloon.

They are nice & solid feeling to drive. Very comfortable & smooth though the rear cartsprings can feel a bit harsh over potholes. The 3.5 power steering is extremely American. No feel & very sensitive at speed but you get used to it & the BW35 isn't the smoothest-changing gearbox, you can improve things with manual changes. It feels like an occasion when you take one out. You used to sit above other road users but these days they look quite small.
I also had an automatic three litre which felt a very different car. Still smooth with the lovely straight six but with more olde world charm, l think. She was an early one, a Mk1a.
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Old 5th November 2019, 21:57   #23
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Ah yes you may get all that with a saloon but you still have to steal the extra clocks from a coupe to sport it up a bit and you donít get underbonnet lighting either


To be honest I was always disappointed by the dash, I always loved the instrument pod but found the rest a bit too plain & featureless, but itís really grown on me over the years.
They are lovely to drive, I drove mine back from Bristol when I bought it & it just swallowed up the miles.
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No, l love the whole dash, the instrument binnacle, the wide expanse of African Cherrywood unsullied by the ugly radio grille & the huge full width parcelshelf. The cherry on the cake was when they moved the time clock over to the curved wooden corner of the facia for the MkIII & the 'B', just lovely.
And imagine my delight on first driving her at night when l discovered that the toggle switches lit up individually.
As l said, l did add the coupe clocks many years ago but l'm not sure l would now. They do rather mar the unfussed dignity of the saloon & you only gain the oil pressure gauge & tachometer. The coupe was for the slight bounders of the establishment who couldn't bring themselves to drive a Jaguar whereas the saloon, well the saloon was the personal transport of The Queen.

Bache was an advocate of minimalism which certainly showed with the first generation P6, which has such an integrated interior that it's very difficult to add extra instruments without them looking like awkward afterthoughts. Practically impossible in fact.
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I do appreciate it much more these days but still think itís the wrong dash for the car. I agree with you about the illuminated switches, I was delighted when I finally got the dash lights working & discovered that
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I can't imagine it with any other dash, though once saw one where the front of the binnacle was just a sheet of black perspex until the ignition was switched on and it was all digital. That was a car & a half, the workmanship and attention to detail was astounding.
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I can't imagine it with any other dash, though once saw one where the front of the binnacle was just a sheet of black perspex until the ignition was switched on and it was all digital. That was a car & a half, the workmanship and attention to detail was astounding.
I donít know what the dash should be like in my mind but if I saw it I would know
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It wasnít really luck, it was just having the balls to go for it really. Iíve loved them since I was a nipper & theyíve always been that bit out of reach for me, so when I got a long overdue substantial pay rise I decided to borrow the money & use my new found wealth to pay it off. If Iíd left it & got used to having the extra then it would never have happened because prices of P5s seem to be climbing now & it wouldnít be long before they were out of reach again
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