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FROGGY · 12th August 2008, 19:09

Whilst I can understand the attitude taken by the Forum moderators that they cannot condone the purchase of "pirated" copies of Rover/MG software because of legal implications, surely most members on here who require access to the information contained on these CD's have no option other than to buy one off ebay.
They are still freely available, and how do you know if it is genuine or a ripped-off copy? No-one says in the ads.
If the owners of the copyright can't be ***** to produce any more, then that is their loss.
It would be interesting to run a poll on here to find out how many of our members KNOW that they have a genuine Rover/MG item.

Just my twopennorth

Mick

Raistlin · 12th August 2008, 19:20

Whether or not you have a genuine disk is irrelevant as far as I can see Mick.

You would not have been granted a licence regardless of where the disk came from owing to the fact that they are only officially licenced to dealers as far as I am aware.

With regard to the copyright owners not producing any more then, if you are referring to EPC I can tell you that a new version is issued every month.

FROGGY · 12th August 2008, 19:45

Trying to work out how this ended up in the social forum when I posted in the Technical help forum???

Mick

Mike · 12th August 2008, 19:45

It might be a bit more complicated than that. There is a licensed Workshop Manual (a cut down Rave) for the 75/ZT named RIM.

RIM was sold retail to the public by MGR for a number of years and there will be many copies remaining that it will be perfectly legal to re-sell ( I have one).

Also genuine RAVE discs have been and are sold via a number of places. If someone buys a genuine RAVE then I'd be interested who if at all XPart might attempt to sue!

A real problem is that I have seen the RAVE name used generically to describe both the Dealer discs and the licensed retail 'RIM', as well as pirated discs on ebay.

epc is another matter altogether and I could go on about that for hours - but won't

hth

GreyGhost · 12th August 2008, 19:52

Let's put this to bed.

There are no circumstances under which the club will be seen as party to or condoning the sale or ownership of pirate software in any way. The copyright is still in force and as such means that software sold on Ebay or elsewhere or indeed copied privately for your own use is illegal.

That is why we try to keep the topic off the forum.

BTW I moved this non technical thread out of the Technical forum.

This thread is now closed.

12th August 2008, 19:09	#1
FROGGY I really should get out more....... MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 17500 REAUX, CHARENTE-MARITIME Posts: 2,749 Thanks: 2 Thanked 133 Times in 90 Posts	CD ROM's - thread closure Whilst I can understand the attitude taken by the Forum moderators that they cannot condone the purchase of "pirated" copies of Rover/MG software because of legal implications, surely most members on here who require access to the information contained on these CD's have no option other than to buy one off ebay. They are still freely available, and how do you know if it is genuine or a ripped-off copy? No-one says in the ads. If the owners of the copyright can't be *** to produce any more, then that is their loss. It would be interesting to run a poll on here to find out how many of our members KNOW that they have a genuine Rover/MG item. Just my twopennorth Mick __________________ http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps628d4119.jpg IN THE BLACK NOW**

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FROGGY I really should get out more....... MG ZT CDTI Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 17500 REAUX, CHARENTE-MARITIME Posts: 2,749 Thanks: 2 Thanked 133 Times in 90 Posts	Trying to work out how this ended up in the social forum when I posted in the Technical help forum??? Mick __________________ http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps628d4119.jpg IN THE BLACK NOW

12th August 2008, 19:45	#4
Mike This is my second home Rover 75 V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,448 Thanks: 0 Thanked 206 Times in 32 Posts	It might be a bit more complicated than that. There is a licensed Workshop Manual (a cut down Rave) for the 75/ZT named RIM. RIM was sold retail to the public by MGR for a number of years and there will be many copies remaining that it will be perfectly legal to re-sell ( I have one). Also genuine RAVE discs have been and are sold via a number of places. If someone buys a genuine RAVE then I'd be interested who if at all XPart might attempt to sue! A real problem is that I have seen the RAVE name used generically to describe both the Dealer discs and the licensed retail 'RIM', as well as pirated discs on ebay. epc is another matter altogether and I could go on about that for hours - but won't hth __________________ Mike [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by Mike; 12th August 2008 at 19:48..

12th August 2008, 19:20	#2
Raistlin Banned 75 CDT Connoisseur SE Auto Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 8,450 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Whether or not you have a genuine disk is irrelevant as far as I can see Mick. You would not have been granted a licence regardless of where the disk came from owing to the fact that they are only officially licenced to dealers as far as I am aware. With regard to the copyright owners not producing any more then, if you are referring to EPC I can tell you that a new version is issued every month.

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GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Let's put this to bed. There are no circumstances under which the club will be seen as party to or condoning the sale or ownership of pirate software in any way. The copyright is still in force and as such means that software sold on Ebay or elsewhere or indeed copied privately for your own use is illegal. That is why we try to keep the topic off the forum. BTW I moved this non technical thread out of the Technical forum. This thread is now closed.