Front door waistrail finisher

Lindy29 · 23rd March 2023, 13:20

Hi all,
Some vandal tried to break in my Rover 75 lately (without success) but damaged the front door waistrail finisher.
Managed to purchase a new one from rimmerbros but before fixing it I need help because I don't want to do this randomly.

I found a post from Steve1966 in the forum but it dates from 16th October 2013 and all photos are unavailable so I am not 100% it relates exactly to the part I want to fix and also, without the photos I am afraid to miss some important info.

Maybe I get get some advice from anyone here?

GeoffWW · 24th March 2023, 16:30

Hello Lindy29,
I have seen your entry with your waist rail problem and tried PMÂ’ ing you but lose my message on pressing the send button.
The waist rail is in two pieces, a long piece from rear edge of the door to the rear edge of the door mirror base, and a short piece going beneath the mirror base to the front where it does a 145 degree turn to join another rail going along the top diagnosing edge of the door. Right at the end of ths short piece, there is a very small screw securing the end from inside the top of the door panel through a rubber block countersunk.
The main strip is held by 4 white plastic clips, Number 13 on the Rimmer parts drawing. I have these in front of me and I will put them together to see how they fit, and then take some photos which I will hopefully be able to send later.

Bye for now

Geoff

GeoffWW · 24th March 2023, 18:09

Hello Lindy29,
I have seen your entry with your waist rail problem and tried PMÂ’ ing you but lose my message on pressing the send button.
The waist rail is in two pieces, a long piece from rear edge of the door to the rear edge of the door mirror base, and a short piece going beneath the mirror base to the front where it does a 145 degree turn to join another rail going along the top diagnosing edge of the door. Right at the end of ths short piece, there is a very small screw securing the end from inside the top of the door panel through a rubber block countersunk.
The main strip is held by 4 white plastic clips, Number 13 on the Rimmer parts drawing. I have these in front of me and I will put them together to see how they fit, and then take some photos which I will hopefully be able to send later.

Bye for now

Geoff7

Lindy29 · 24th March 2023, 19:13

Thank you so much GeoffWW! Really nice of you

GeoffWW · 24th March 2023, 20:49

Hello again Lindy29,
Sorry about the duplication of my earlier reply, I had had a couple of attempts and thought the first one failed.
I have taken some photos of the actual rail pieces and a complete unbroken white plastic clip which clips under the chrome section and then on to the top edge of the door. But I still can’t get the pictures from my picture library on to the forum entry. My sister phoned me and we were on FaceTime for over an hour.

I think you will have to remove the glass to get all the clips in place. I thought they could be “squeezed in” between the glass and the metal top of the door, but I still can’t see how the other pairs of clips, there are three pairs in each piece, hold the door-top and the waist rail together.
I remember raising the door-lock end of the Waistrail with a carving knife blade wrapped in plastic to protect the door paint and easing it up and rolling the Waistrail clockwise to free the holding clips, progressively working towards the door mirror. Please note on the front short section, besides the screw at the front end, there is a little hook that holds the two sections together at the join.
If only I could get the pictures to you, can E mail them to you outside the forum. A picture says a thousand words.
I will have another try at getting my pictures on the forum tomorrow. Attachment 88227 please see below in the additional options

GeoffWW · 24th March 2023, 20:53

Finally some pictures although a duplication. I have more and will send them tomorrow.

GeoffWW · 25th March 2023, 20:59

Hello again,
Here are three more pictures in reverse order
1. Of one of the 4 clips fitted at the end of the waistrail for demonstration purposes.
2. Showing a clip with the 3 pairs of clips, and the rubber circular pad which I think protects the glass.
3. The inside of the front hooked end showing the white plastic screw ‘receptor’.

Lindy29 · 26th March 2023, 10:15

Good morning and thank you very much for taking time to reply and send those pictures.
I had a guess that the inside front screw had a role there but are you sure about having to remove the glass?

When I read that Steve1966's post I first mentioned, he did not seem to imply that step. I will try to post the link here.

Lindy29 · 26th March 2023, 10:21

This the link:
https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=161793

Lindy29 · 26th March 2023, 13:31

I managed!! Many thanks! Yes it was important to remove the side mirror for the insertion of the front piece. Perfect fitting!!

23rd March 2023, 13:20	#1
Lindy29 Newbie Rover 75 sALOON Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lesneven Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Front door waistrail finisher Hi all, Some vandal tried to break in my Rover 75 lately (without success) but damaged the front door waistrail finisher. Managed to purchase a new one from rimmerbros but before fixing it I need help because I don't want to do this randomly. I found a post from Steve1966 in the forum but it dates from 16th October 2013 and all photos are unavailable so I am not 100% it relates exactly to the part I want to fix and also, without the photos I am afraid to miss some important info. Maybe I get get some advice from anyone here?

24th March 2023, 16:30	#2
GeoffWW Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Connoisseur SE Auto, Also fully restored Mk 2 1966 MG Midget Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Thanks: 49 Thanked 59 Times in 46 Posts	Lindy29 Hello Lindy29, I have seen your entry with your waist rail problem and tried PMÂ’ ing you but lose my message on pressing the send button. The waist rail is in two pieces, a long piece from rear edge of the door to the rear edge of the door mirror base, and a short piece going beneath the mirror base to the front where it does a 145 degree turn to join another rail going along the top diagnosing edge of the door. Right at the end of ths short piece, there is a very small screw securing the end from inside the top of the door panel through a rubber block countersunk. The main strip is held by 4 white plastic clips, Number 13 on the Rimmer parts drawing. I have these in front of me and I will put them together to see how they fit, and then take some photos which I will hopefully be able to send later. Bye for now Geoff

24th March 2023, 18:09	#3
GeoffWW Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Connoisseur SE Auto, Also fully restored Mk 2 1966 MG Midget Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Thanks: 49 Thanked 59 Times in 46 Posts	Lindy29 Hello Lindy29, I have seen your entry with your waist rail problem and tried PMÂ’ ing you but lose my message on pressing the send button. The waist rail is in two pieces, a long piece from rear edge of the door to the rear edge of the door mirror base, and a short piece going beneath the mirror base to the front where it does a 145 degree turn to join another rail going along the top diagnosing edge of the door. Right at the end of ths short piece, there is a very small screw securing the end from inside the top of the door panel through a rubber block countersunk. The main strip is held by 4 white plastic clips, Number 13 on the Rimmer parts drawing. I have these in front of me and I will put them together to see how they fit, and then take some photos which I will hopefully be able to send later. Bye for now Geoff7

24th March 2023, 19:13	#4
Lindy29 Newbie Rover 75 sALOON Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lesneven Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you so much GeoffWW! Really nice of you

24th March 2023, 20:53	#6
GeoffWW Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Connoisseur SE Auto, Also fully restored Mk 2 1966 MG Midget Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Thanks: 49 Thanked 59 Times in 46 Posts	Finally some pictures although a duplication. I have more and will send them tomorrow.

26th March 2023, 10:15	#8
Lindy29 Newbie Rover 75 sALOON Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lesneven Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good morning and thank you very much for taking time to reply and send those pictures. I had a guess that the inside front screw had a role there but are you sure about having to remove the glass? When I read that Steve1966's post I first mentioned, he did not seem to imply that step. I will try to post the link here.

26th March 2023, 10:21	#9
Lindy29 Newbie Rover 75 sALOON Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lesneven Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This the link: https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=161793

26th March 2023, 13:31	#10
Lindy29 Newbie Rover 75 sALOON Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lesneven Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I managed!! Many thanks! Yes it was important to remove the side mirror for the insertion of the front piece. Perfect fitting!!