Timing belts

jimbo101 · 26th August 2018, 11:59

Firstly, I know the advice is generally if in doubt replace the cambelt, and agree it is sound thinking. But.....

Has anyone known a KV6 cambelt fail ever?

In an ideal world I would change mine straight away, but I am not in a position to do it now. I am trying to gauge how high the likelihood of failure might be on a 14 year old car that has done 57k and assuming worst case scenario that it has never been changed.

Thanks
Jamie

Groundsman Willie · 26th August 2018, 13:09

Bit of a contentious subject on here. No doubt you will get some opinions posted up, but hold on tight, it could get s bit stormy

paul d · 26th August 2018, 13:15

I think it's up to you really at the end of the day.

Having just bought a 2000 2.0 V6 that's on 48,000 & never had them done, I will be having them replaced. It's not just the mileage you have to consider. I think the recommendation is X number of miles or Y many years

Regards

Paul

vacuman · 26th August 2018, 13:16

When I got mine in Feb 2017, at 62k, I couldn't find any record of belt change. I asked the guys at the Rover Centre in St Albans and they said they had only ever seen one example of KV6 belt failure.

Of course, NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-'s law could mean that mine would be the second but their view was to run the car for a year (I'm only doing 2k a year) and then see how things are. Would be silly to do the belts as soon as buying the car (£750 is quoted) and then find a shed load of other problems.

Fortunately, soon after buying the car I found a little tick in the service book from back in 2014 when it was serviced at Summit in Dudley (https://www.summitgarage.co.uk/) that they had done the belts at, I recall, 52k.

So my suggestion is the same. Crack on with the other more critical stuff, including rust removal and prevention, sealing any leaks, sorting all the usual stuff (plenum drains, handbrake, VIS, fan resistor, bonnet cable, headlight lenses etc.)

Once you are in for a grand or so, take stock of the car...is it a keeper? If so, then find someone you can trust to do the belts and pump properly.

It seems a lot of money but, in the big scheme of things.....you have opted to buy a heavy V6 car that will always cost more to run than cheaper smaller options. If you can't afford it, as they say, buy a 1 litre rollerskate.

trikey · 26th August 2018, 13:18

The choice is yours at the end of the day, the question is if it does fail, how much will you rely on your car?

Mike Trident · 26th August 2018, 13:48

That's a dangerous question to ask on here, there will be disagreements, fall outs, people will leave the forum etc etc.

paul d · 26th August 2018, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Trident

That's a dangerous question to ask on here, there will be disagreements, fall outs, people will leave the forum etc etc.

Surely not

Regards

Paul

jimbo101 · 26th August 2018, 14:20

Good replies, thanks. You are right, it's my choice but I am just trying to find information on which to base the decision.

I like the wait and see suggestion, and see if it is worth it. I am going to wait and see. If it goes pop maybe an interesting engine swap could be had, lol.

Jamie

gazcaz · 26th August 2018, 14:34

When i brought zt mk1 2001 3 years ago, cam belt had never been changed it had done 82000.Hence to say it was done immediately along with water pump tensioners etc...

NigelOBB · 26th August 2018, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo101

Firstly, I know the advice is generally if in doubt replace the cambelt, and agree it is sound thinking. But.....

Has anyone known a KV6 cambelt fail ever?

In an ideal world I would change mine straight away, but I am not in a position to do it now. I am trying to gauge how high the likelihood of failure might be on a 14 year old car that has done 57k and assuming worst case scenario that it has never been changed.

Thanks

Jamie

Ive seen a well serviced KV6 belt go, and I’ve seen the damage caused. It was a member car in at Turbo Dave’s getting a replacement engine fitted.

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26th August 2018, 11:59	#1
jimbo101 Regular poster MG ZT 190+ Anthracite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Shepton Mallet Posts: 65 Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Timing belts Firstly, I know the advice is generally if in doubt replace the cambelt, and agree it is sound thinking. But..... Has anyone known a KV6 cambelt fail ever? In an ideal world I would change mine straight away, but I am not in a position to do it now. I am trying to gauge how high the likelihood of failure might be on a 14 year old car that has done 57k and assuming worst case scenario that it has never been changed. Thanks Jamie __________________ 03 MG ZT 120+ Solar Red 04 MG ZT 190+ Anthracite Previous MG/Rover/Austin/Triumph I have owned: 02 Rover 75 Club SE Tourer Wedgewood Blue 89 Austin Maestro 1.6HL 87 MG Metro 84 Triumph Acclaim

26th August 2018, 13:09	#2
Groundsman Willie Gets stuck in Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Newbury Posts: 842 Thanks: 783 Thanked 423 Times in 264 Posts	Bit of a contentious subject on here. No doubt you will get some opinions posted up, but hold on tight, it could get s bit stormy __________________ Dave

26th August 2018, 13:15	#3
paul d Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon & Saab 93 'vert Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: coventry Posts: 1,378 Thanks: 199 Thanked 204 Times in 162 Posts	I think it's up to you really at the end of the day. Having just bought a 2000 2.0 V6 that's on 48,000 & never had them done, I will be having them replaced. It's not just the mileage you have to consider. I think the recommendation is X number of miles or Y many years Regards Paul __________________ The Colour WAS CELESTIAL...! Meanwhile Back At The Ranch...!!!

26th August 2018, 13:16	#4
vacuman Gets stuck in MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: St Albans Posts: 855 Thanks: 69 Thanked 236 Times in 172 Posts	When I got mine in Feb 2017, at 62k, I couldn't find any record of belt change. I asked the guys at the Rover Centre in St Albans and they said they had only ever seen one example of KV6 belt failure. Of course, NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-'s law could mean that mine would be the second but their view was to run the car for a year (I'm only doing 2k a year) and then see how things are. Would be silly to do the belts as soon as buying the car (£750 is quoted) and then find a shed load of other problems. Fortunately, soon after buying the car I found a little tick in the service book from back in 2014 when it was serviced at Summit in Dudley (https://www.summitgarage.co.uk/) that they had done the belts at, I recall, 52k. So my suggestion is the same. Crack on with the other more critical stuff, including rust removal and prevention, sealing any leaks, sorting all the usual stuff (plenum drains, handbrake, VIS, fan resistor, bonnet cable, headlight lenses etc.) Once you are in for a grand or so, take stock of the car...is it a keeper? If so, then find someone you can trust to do the belts and pump properly. It seems a lot of money but, in the big scheme of things.....you have opted to buy a heavy V6 car that will always cost more to run than cheaper smaller options. If you can't afford it, as they say, buy a 1 litre rollerskate. __________________ • This vehicle was the 8,186th ZT-T to run off the production line, out of 8,249 • This vehicle was the 1,723rd ZT-T 190 + to be made out of 1,756 • This vehicle was the 149th ZT-T in Mica Blue (Ignition) (code: JGY) to be made out of 160 Mica Blue (Ignition) ZT-Ts

26th August 2018, 13:18	#5
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,810 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	The choice is yours at the end of the day, the question is if it does fail, how much will you rely on your car? __________________ Lest we forget..

26th August 2018, 13:48	#6
Mike Trident Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Saloon & Citroen C1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Oakenshaw, Near Bradford Posts: 1,624 Thanks: 385 Thanked 552 Times in 328 Posts	That's a dangerous question to ask on here, there will be disagreements, fall outs, people will leave the forum etc etc. __________________ Rover 75 2.0 CDTi (131Ps) Conn SE Saloon. (Manual) 160 Remap, cruise control, electric window blind, temp gauge, Real walnut / ZT interior, FBH with GSM control. BORN Tuesday, 5th October 2004 @ 12:35:52 This vehicle was the 104,679th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 3,318th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 4,744 This vehicle was the 12,440th 75 in Starlight Silver (code: MBB) to be made out of 14,280 Starlight Silver 75s

26th August 2018, 14:20	#8
jimbo101 Regular poster MG ZT 190+ Anthracite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Shepton Mallet Posts: 65 Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Good replies, thanks. You are right, it's my choice but I am just trying to find information on which to base the decision. I like the wait and see suggestion, and see if it is worth it. I am going to wait and see. If it goes pop maybe an interesting engine swap could be had, lol. Jamie __________________ 03 MG ZT 120+ Solar Red 04 MG ZT 190+ Anthracite Previous MG/Rover/Austin/Triumph I have owned: 02 Rover 75 Club SE Tourer Wedgewood Blue 89 Austin Maestro 1.6HL 87 MG Metro 84 Triumph Acclaim

26th August 2018, 14:34	#9
gazcaz I really should get out more....... MG ZT Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Worthing Posts: 2,744 Thanks: 3,944 Thanked 576 Times in 471 Posts	When i brought zt mk1 2001 3 years ago, cam belt had never been changed it had done 82000.Hence to say it was done immediately along with water pump tensioners etc... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] MG ZT 2.5 V6 234th of 2,834 Trophy Blue ZT 190 + Saloons Produced 14th of 27 MG ZTs Produced on 27-09-2001