Britains diesel scandal

[topman]

Originally Posted by rustymotor

There's me thinking it was cows farting that was the main source of pollution and as it takes 15,114 litres of water to produce 1kg of beef

Therefore water causes farting?

[rustymotor]

Originally Posted by topman

Therefore water causes farting?

Nope, but the methane gas includes water vapor: Methane gas, like all other greenhouse gases (which includes water vapor), acts like a blanket around our planet, trapping heat.

In a 2006 United Nations' Food and Agricultural Organization report, it claims that the livestock sector, most of which are cows, "generates more greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent – 18 percent – than transport."source

[Rev Jules]

Originally Posted by rustymotor

Nope, but the methane gas includes water vapor: Methane gas, like all other greenhouse gases (which includes water vapor), acts like a blanket around our planet, trapping heat.

In a 2006 United Nations' Food and Agricultural Organization report, it claims that the livestock sector, most of which are cows, "generates more greenhouse gas emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent – 18 percent – than transport."source

Brilliant? no wonder my backside feels a lot warmer than any where else on my body.

Rev

[rustymotor]

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

Brilliant? no wonder my backside feels a lot warmer than any where else on my body.

Rev

I made the switch to lager now my bum is much cooler

[wraymond]

As usual the lobbyists won the day and the whole world went diesel. For what? Helping to 'control' the planet? No, such vanity to blithely accept without question that puny men can affect the enormity that is Earth! Three quarters is Oceania. Another quarter desert. An eighth is virgin forest and the cities take up the rest. Tiny.

It's not so much the diesel fuel that is the major scandal, people will remain susceptible to con tricks for ever. The concerted effort by certain manufacturers to distort their product's performance, so as to cheat their incredulous customers into believing they are 'helping to save us all', is scandalous and probably second only to war in the sins of avarice.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by topman

Very difficult to get an exact number. figures vary from 90-10%, take your pick I guess.

Yes it is - for example the %age for vehicles like Jeep and Land Rover are far far lower than for throw away cars that last less than a decade. In comparison the figures I’ve seen for Land Rovers indicate that about 70% of all vehicles built by LR are still on the road.

Jeep has similar figures.

And funnily enough - each year that we keep our fabulous cars on the road means that their emissions “footprint” gets smaller.

[topman]

I guess each car is different even within one manufacturer and there's so many variables, its very difficult to come up with a number.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by topman

I guess each car is different even within one manufacturer and there's so many variables, its very difficult to come up with a number.

Very true - but how crazy to build more cars and scrap older ones if in doing so the emissions footprint is vastly increased!

The only reason why this has to be considered is because Alarmists convinced the politicians that CO2 is the most dangerous compound on the planet and so the higher particulates and NOx levels of diesels was acceptable Collateral Damage in their bizarre war on CO2 - a gas which every plant on the planet requires to make the carbohydrates we all need to sustain life.

[topman]

Originally Posted by Darcydog

Very true - but how crazy to build more cars and scrap older ones if in doing so the emissions footprint is vastly increased!

That's my point, we don't really know if it does or doesn't. Too many variables.

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by topman

That's my point, we don't really know if it does or doesn't. Too many variables.

Oh I think the jury is out on the fact that building a new car is the most polluting activity of a cars lifecycle.

What has yet to be determined is the net gain from scrapping older cars to force us to buy newer ones that are admittedly less polluting in everyday use.