Manual CDTi Gearbox oil change

T16 · 23rd February 2011, 07:38

So,

I need to do this today if at all possible for a long trip and a holiday.

I cant see any sealing washers on the Fill and drain plugs in EPC. Is this correct?

Are they self sealing ??

rovexCDTi · 23rd February 2011, 17:02

On other gearboxes ive done in the past there were no washers, or the washer was integrated into the plug. I wouldnt worry to much, the need to change them every time is a bit exaggerated even on engines in my experience.

HarryM1BYT · 23rd February 2011, 17:33

One dodge with the copper sealing washers, was to simply get them cherry red then allow them to cool down slowly to soften them.

rovexCDTi · 23rd February 2011, 17:35

As long as you dont over tighten the plug they dont really need replacing. Some cars have the factory original on for decades.

T16 · 23rd February 2011, 19:03

cool thanks.

Car was on a set of ramps, but I put almost 2L in and nothing came out of the fill plug....

Really weird. Had 2 x 1L bottles of MTF 94, and as I said, the car was on ramps, so it cant have been on too much of a slope.

Is everyone sure that the 1.4L in RAVE is not a typo ?

HarryM1BYT · 23rd February 2011, 22:45

If it is the same as all other cars where I have tackled the gearbox oil, the car really does need to be properly level when topping up - both end to end and side to side.

Which usually means a pit, a lift, or on ramps at one end and a jack to raise the other end.

Alan Cannell · 17th March 2015, 21:57

Hello, sorry if this has been answered elsewhere.... what gearbox is on the manual 130 diesel please? Somebody told me Peugeot and somebody else told me Ford. Is there a six speed conversion? I am guessing if the box is Ford, the answer may well be yes? Thanks for any replies... Alan

Alan123 · 17th March 2015, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

One dodge with the copper sealing washers, was to simply get them cherry red then allow them to cool down slowly to soften them.

This process is called annealing..
Get the copper cherry red and dip it in cold water this makes it soft enough to be used again

Mike Noc · 17th March 2015, 22:09

Exactly what I do to the engine oil drain plug washer each service.

Doc Evil · 18th March 2015, 05:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by T16

cool thanks.

Car was on a set of ramps, but I put almost 2L in and nothing came out of the fill plug....

Really weird. Had 2 x 1L bottles of MTF 94, and as I said, the car was on ramps, so it cant have been on too much of a slope.

Is everyone sure that the 1.4L in RAVE is not a typo ?

unless you had the back jacked up the same height as the ramps then you HAVE over filled it
Get it nice and level in both planes you will find it will now run out the filler hole

Doc

23rd February 2011, 07:38	#1
T16 I really should get out more....... ZT CDTi 135, ZT260SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,877 Thanks: 10 Thanked 331 Times in 213 Posts	Manual CDTi Gearbox oil change So, I need to do this today if at all possible for a long trip and a holiday. I cant see any sealing washers on the Fill and drain plugs in EPC. Is this correct? Are they self sealing ??

23rd February 2011, 17:33	#3
HarryM1BYT This is my second home 75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Leeds Posts: 17,273 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts	One dodge with the copper sealing washers, was to simply get them cherry red then allow them to cool down slowly to soften them. __________________ Harry How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses... http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540 Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing. I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

23rd February 2011, 22:45	#6
HarryM1BYT This is my second home 75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Leeds Posts: 17,273 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts	If it is the same as all other cars where I have tackled the gearbox oil, the car really does need to be properly level when topping up - both end to end and side to side. Which usually means a pit, a lift, or on ramps at one end and a jack to raise the other end. __________________ Harry How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses... http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540 Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing. I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

17th March 2015, 21:57	#7
Alan Cannell Newbie DA53PXH Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	cgti gearbox Hello, sorry if this has been answered elsewhere.... what gearbox is on the manual 130 diesel please? Somebody told me Peugeot and somebody else told me Ford. Is there a six speed conversion? I am guessing if the box is Ford, the answer may well be yes? Thanks for any replies... Alan

23rd February 2011, 17:02	#2
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	On other gearboxes ive done in the past there were no washers, or the washer was integrated into the plug. I wouldnt worry to much, the need to change them every time is a bit exaggerated even on engines in my experience.

23rd February 2011, 17:35	#4
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	As long as you dont over tighten the plug they dont really need replacing. Some cars have the factory original on for decades.

23rd February 2011, 19:03	#5
T16 I really should get out more....... ZT CDTi 135, ZT260SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dundee Posts: 2,877 Thanks: 10 Thanked 331 Times in 213 Posts	cool thanks. Car was on a set of ramps, but I put almost 2L in and nothing came out of the fill plug.... Really weird. Had 2 x 1L bottles of MTF 94, and as I said, the car was on ramps, so it cant have been on too much of a slope. Is everyone sure that the 1.4L in RAVE is not a typo ?

17th March 2015, 22:09	#9
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,585 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Exactly what I do to the engine oil drain plug washer each service.