snapped timing belt

Benjaminsson · 17th March 2015, 14:58

Hello members and gurus at the club.
I have a Rover 75 with 2,5 V6 engine. Last week the timing belt tensioner went to an immediatiely halt, and of course the timing belt snapped.

As you can see the valves didn't appreciate the action. My problem (at least one of them) is that I don't have access to the special tools that are required for getting the timing belt pulleys in position. I live in Sweden and here the special tools are not available in every supermarket...

My question is: Do I have to remove the pulleys or can I just let them stay on while dismantling the camshaft and the not anymore so very straight valves?
Best regards
Benjamin

chipsceola · 17th March 2015, 16:22

Best info I can find is on the buyers guide in this forum, may help a little, if not can I suggest you search using this facility for more advice pending posts by some of our resident experts.

SD1too · 17th March 2015, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjaminsson

My question is: Do I have to remove the pulleys or can I just let them stay on while dismantling the camshaft and the not anymore so very straight valves?

Hello Benjamin,

MG Rover shows the ends of the camshafts extending through the plastic sprocket wheel covers. You therefore need to remove those covers in order to lift out the camshafts. You cannot remove the covers without first removing the sprocket wheels. At least that's my understanding from the diagrams.

It seems from your photograph that you have already removed one cylinder head from the engine. How are you going to hold the camshafts still whilst removing the sprocket wheels? The special tools lock the two camshafts together.

I'd recommend that you read Beinet1's account before proceeding.

Simon

minimutly · 17th March 2015, 18:08

You will have to remove the cam bolts, covers, seals. I really don't see how you can set the timing without these tools.

marinabrian · 17th March 2015, 20:19

This any good for you?

LINK

Brian

ProfDave · 17th March 2015, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjaminsson

Hello members and gurus at the club.
I have a Rover 75 with 2,5 V6 engine. Last week the timing belt tensioner went to an immediatiely halt, and of course the timing belt snapped.

As you can see the valves didn't appreciate the action. My problem (at least one of them) is that I don't have access to the special tools that are required for getting the timing belt pulleys in position. I live in Sweden and here the special tools are not available in every supermarket...

My question is: Do I have to remove the pulleys or can I just let them stay on while dismantling the camshaft and the not anymore so very straight valves?
Best regards
Benjamin

I would suggest the quickest and maybe cheapest option is a SH engine from a scrap car with history of which there are an increasing number

Benjaminsson · 18th March 2015, 07:08

At first I will say that I am impressed over the fast and engaged respons.
I was rather conviced that I must remove the sprockets, but thougt there might be a "little trick"

to do the job. Have seen a lot of good tips on this forum that made the life much easier for a Rover 75 owner.
But I see that I will have to buy the tools. I am making up a good shopping list to Rimmerbros co.uk and Ebay.
Many thanks to everybody for quick reply. And special thanks to Marinabrian for the link. I have read several posts from you and you have my deepest respect (no I'm not trying to borrrow money from you

)

OK, back to work for getting this connie back on the road.

beinet1 · 18th March 2015, 07:35

Hi there Scandinavian fellow!

My experience here from Norway, is that the tooling is present in the Land Rover garages and some Mekonomen/Meca garages. It might be the case in Sweden also. If I was you, I would give it a try and call them if they have it avialable and if it is possible to rent them in any way.

See if you can get in contact with anyone within the Land Rover clubs/garages, there is much knowledge and tooling available there.

Wow... expecesive: http://catalog.meca.no/ProductSheet....ryType_ID=null

http://www.auto-tools.com/AT-motorinst.pdf

Benjaminsson · 18th March 2015, 15:14

Hi there!
I will try out to contact some Land Rover garages. Will also ask auto-tools.
Hopefully you don't need this tool so often :-) so rent it for a while seems like a good idea.
Many thanks or...
Mange takk Beinet1

Doc Evil · 18th March 2015, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjaminsson

Many thanks to everybody for quick reply. And special thanks to Marinabrian for the link. I have read several posts from you and you have my deepest respect (no I'm not trying to borrrow money from you

)

OK, back to work for getting this connie back on the road.

Money no but he might lend you a pack of biscuits!

Doc

17th March 2015, 16:22	#2
chipsceola This is my second home Jaguar XF 3.0D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southampton Posts: 4,364 Thanks: 119 Thanked 509 Times in 426 Posts	Best info I can find is on the buyers guide in this forum, may help a little, if not can I suggest you search using this facility for more advice pending posts by some of our resident experts. __________________ Chips

18th March 2015, 07:08	#7
Benjaminsson Newbie 2x Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Stenungsund Posts: 11 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Convinced At first I will say that I am impressed over the fast and engaged respons. I was rather conviced that I must remove the sprockets, but thougt there might be a "little trick" to do the job. Have seen a lot of good tips on this forum that made the life much easier for a Rover 75 owner. But I see that I will have to buy the tools. I am making up a good shopping list to Rimmerbros co.uk and Ebay. Many thanks to everybody for quick reply. And special thanks to Marinabrian for the link. I have read several posts from you and you have my deepest respect (no I'm not trying to borrrow money from you ) OK, back to work for getting this connie back on the road. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Benjamin

18th March 2015, 07:35	#8
beinet1 Posted a thing or two Rover 75 2.0 V6 Auto Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sandnes - Norway Posts: 1,560 Thanks: 64 Thanked 283 Times in 174 Posts	Hi there Scandinavian fellow! My experience here from Norway, is that the tooling is present in the Land Rover garages and some Mekonomen/Meca garages. It might be the case in Sweden also. If I was you, I would give it a try and call them if they have it avialable and if it is possible to rent them in any way. See if you can get in contact with anyone within the Land Rover clubs/garages, there is much knowledge and tooling available there. Wow... expecesive: http://catalog.meca.no/ProductSheet....ryType_ID=null http://www.auto-tools.com/AT-motorinst.pdf Last edited by beinet1; 18th March 2015 at 07:54..

18th March 2015, 15:14	#9
Benjaminsson Newbie 2x Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Stenungsund Posts: 11 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi there! I will try out to contact some Land Rover garages. Will also ask auto-tools. Hopefully you don't need this tool so often :-) so rent it for a while seems like a good idea. Many thanks or... Mange takk Beinet1 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Benjamin

17th March 2015, 18:08	#4
minimutly Posted a thing or two mg zt Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: cardigan Posts: 1,087 Thanks: 28 Thanked 187 Times in 158 Posts	You will have to remove the cam bolts, covers, seals. I really don't see how you can set the timing without these tools.

17th March 2015, 20:19	#5
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	This any good for you? LINK Brian