What's going on with Jaguar?

[Lancpudn]

Are we going to see the big cat go extinct or what prior to them going full electric by 2025

[Lancpudn]

More trouble at mill for Jaguar! Are we going to see the UK auto manufacturing fall even further behind because of chronic under investment in NEV (new energy vehicles supplies)

Jaguar are going full electric by 2025 but with no signs of early battery supplies on the horizon, They need to look further afield.



"The UK lacks the cell and pack factories automakers will need to support their transition away from the internal combustion engine. In what could be a fresh blow to British carmaking, the country’s top auto manufacturer, Jaguar Land Rover, is in talks with Northvolt and SVolt Energy Technology about supplying batteries for a range of EVs it may assemble in Slovakia, according to people familiar with the matter.
Unless battery investment picks up, carmakers may only accelerate their exodus from what was once the world’s second-biggest auto manufacturing base. The last few years, the UK fell outside the top 15." https://vnexplorer.net/uks-automotiv...-s1672035.html

[Lancpudn]

Looks like Jaguar are going up market to Bentley levels of quality & price, Jaguar have announced a trio of electric sports SUV's in 2025 with prices starting from £80000-£120000.
https://www.electrive.com/2022/07/03...-suvs-in-2025/

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by Lancpudn

Looks like Jaguar are going up market to Bentley levels of quality & price, Jaguar have announced a trio of electric sports SUV's in 2025 with prices starting from £80000-£120000.
https://www.electrive.com/2022/07/03...-suvs-in-2025/

I think that the cost of EV,s are going to out price themselves to the normal purchaser, as well as the cost of replacement batteries. Maybe that is the plan, so only the selected few will be able to drive in the future...

[Lancpudn]

Originally Posted by Number 6

I think that the cost of EV,s are going to out price themselves to the normal purchaser, as well as the cost of replacement batteries. Maybe that is the plan, so only the selected few will be able to drive in the future...

Yes you're not wrong, The government wont be too fussed because it will get rid of congestion & it will keep the UK within it's YOY emission limits for NetZero. There's also another dilemma! When the 2030 new car ICE ban cometh & they want mass adoption of electric vehicles what will happen to the car market when hundreds of thousands of motorist cant afford new BEV's? Will the new car market shrink or even collapse because of the high prices & low sales. Weird times ahead.

[roverbarmy]

I thought that it was the beginning of the end when Jaguar stopped using the straight six and later put a stinky diesel into the marque.

Don't get me started on plastic wood!

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Lancpudn

More trouble at mill for Jaguar! Are we going to see the UK auto manufacturing fall even further behind because of chronic under investment in NEV (new energy vehicles supplies)

Jaguar are going full electric by 2025 but with no signs of early battery supplies on the horizon, They need to look further afield.



"The UK lacks the cell and pack factories automakers will need to support their transition away from the internal combustion engine. In what could be a fresh blow to British carmaking, the country’s top auto manufacturer, Jaguar Land Rover, is in talks with Northvolt and SVolt Energy Technology about supplying batteries for a range of EVs it may assemble in Slovakia, according to people familiar with the matter.
Unless battery investment picks up, carmakers may only accelerate their exodus from what was once the world’s second-biggest auto manufacturing base. The last few years, the UK fell outside the top 15." https://vnexplorer.net/uks-automotiv...-s1672035.html

Very poor government policies since the end of WW2 as well as underinvestment by the companies. For BL the issue was virtually all the combined companies had just launched new models and thus there was no defined and simple forward planning + plus all the labour disputes hitting quality and sales they were always behind the "extra options" that the Japanese offered.

For Ford it was globalisation but I do remember Ford of Britain giving the parent US company a loan of £600 million (early 70's) to prevent Ford going bankrupt and Chapter 11.

GM just run out of money and so decided to concentrate on Continental factories where less labour issues occurred.

What if?

Kev

[SideValve]

In a sense it doesn't matter, Jaguar (and Mini) are no longer British owned brands and both manufacturers now produce new models in Europe. After all the talk the Grenadier also went abroad. Our current govt - when they take a break from smoozing their oliagarch donors - dont believe in investing in UK industries and our PM is on record as saying "f**k business".
Rather like our energy services, leaving these things to market forces means losing out to countries that invest.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by SideValve

In a sense it doesn't matter, Jaguar (and Mini) are no longer British owned brands and both manufacturers now produce new models in Europe. After all the talk the Grenadier also went abroad. Our current govt - when they take a break from smoozing their oliagarch donors - dont believe in investing in UK industries and our PM is on record as saying "f**k business".
Rather like our energy services, leaving these things to market forces means losing out to countries that invest.

Jaguar employ a lot of skilled British people in design and manufacturing. It shows in the elegance and quality of their cars.

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by MSS

Jaguar employ a lot of skilled British people in design and manufacturing. It shows in the elegance and quality of their cars.

A lot of Skilled British people Yes, Elegance and Quality? Doubtful.