Largest battery which will fit - definative

HarryM1BYT · 21st May 2016, 10:30

I asked earlier which was the highest capacity battery which would fit and fit properly into my CDTi. The discussion has rattled around for years as to which is the largest, but there have been no definitive replies and lots of warnings that the lid will not fit/ possibly be damaged in forcing it on with a 190mm high battery.

The battery I had was a 175mm high Bosch. The battery I was wondering if it would fit, was 190mm high. So I tested the available height with a 10.5mm thick lathe cutting tool and it cleared easily. I now know my maths was wrong

175 + 10.5 is 185.5 = NOT 190mm. I had a silly moment, but too late - I had already ordered a 190mm high battery yesterday afternoon.

It seems unlikely, but just in case there are variations amongst the 75 range, in battery boxes...
The internal height of my battery box, with lid removed and measured to the high point of the internal base close to the 'wall', was 187mm. My Varta battery fits around 2mm below the top of this - which suggests the Varta's 190height is probably nearer 185mm.

Panic not, it arrived this morning and fitted absolutely fine and I do mean fine.

This is the battery I ordered...

https://www.tayna.co.uk/E44-Varta-Si...078-P7726.html

A 096 E44 77aH; CCA-780
L 278mm, W 175mm, H 190mm

It is Varta's top model, with a 5 year guarantee. I paid £65.26, with standard delivery and a £1.77 discount from a promo code I found on line. It was delivered next day, this morning. Promo discount code is - FACEBOOK45

It fits fine, with the lid and the metal bracket and the retaining strap in place. There was no bulging of the lid at all, it fits absolutely perfectly. It was no more of a struggle to get the lid on, than it had been with my earlier 175mm high battery.

My old much abused Bosch was 7 years old, I have been looking to replace it for the past couple of years due to its failing capacity, but I have nursed it carefully and it has never let me down. The only thing holding me back, was confusion over the the which was the biggest capacity I could fit, the continual inconclusive discussion on here.

I tow and I didn't much fancy risking towing and breaking down with no spare power for lights on a dark back country road.

BigAde · 21st May 2016, 10:41

Glad you got that sorted Harry and that's useful information to note for future, I too have had great prices and service from Tayna.
I got the slightly smaller Varta one last year, for much the same reason - I wasn't sure the bigger one would comfortably fit. Varta make the batteries for Bosch and this is otherwise identical to the Bosch S5 range, same warranty etc, you just pay the extra for the Bosch 'name'.

mininuts · 21st May 2016, 10:41

Thanks for the definitive answer

I'm sure mine's getting ready for a new one, so that's very useful info. Good price too for a top quality battery.

David Lawrence · 21st May 2016, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

Panic not, it arrived this morning and fitted absolutely fine and I do mean fine.

This is the battery I ordered...

https://www.tayna.co.uk/E44-Varta-Si...078-P7726.html

A 096 E44 77aH; CCA-780
L 278mm, W 175mm, H 190mm

It is Varta's top model, with a 5 year guarantee. I paid £65.26, with standard delivery and a £1.77 discount from a promo code I found on line. It was delivered next day, this morning. Promo discount code is - FACEBOOK45

It fits fine, with the lid and the metal bracket and the retaining strap in place. [COLOR=Red]There was no bulging of the lid at all, it fits absolutely perfectly. It was no more of a struggle to get the lid on, than it had been with my earlier 175mm high battery.

I have the same battery on both my cars and i agree with you they fit fine. A good battery with a decent price

MSS · 21st May 2016, 15:46

Ditto - but the Bosch equivalent S5008.

KRISTLEE · 28th August 2016, 20:22

I ended up buying one of these batteries a while back....wish I knew this information before lol

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/bul...5-yr-guarantee

Dallas · 14th September 2016, 20:39

I'm confused

so how did you get the 190mm battery to fit?

Rooney · 14th September 2016, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas

I'm confused

so how did you get the 190mm battery to fit?

Because it turned out not to be 190 mm

''which suggests the Varta's 190height is probably nearer 185mm. ''

Dallas · 14th September 2016, 21:15

I have a Yuasa 190mm battery taken from a 52 plate ZT, it fitted perfectly including the lid.

I have just gone to fit the Yuasa 190mm battery to a 2001 ZT, and the battery is too tall, battery lid does not fit.

The battery I had taken out of the 2001 ZT is a BOSH 180mm...

What am I doing wrong, is there a change in battery boxes?

Atcchus · 1st October 2016, 19:52

Thanks Harry for your little research, ordered one today .

21st May 2016, 10:30	#1
HarryM1BYT This is my second home 75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Leeds Posts: 17,273 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts	Largest battery which will fit - definative I asked earlier which was the highest capacity battery which would fit and fit properly into my CDTi. The discussion has rattled around for years as to which is the largest, but there have been no definitive replies and lots of warnings that the lid will not fit/ possibly be damaged in forcing it on with a 190mm high battery. The battery I had was a 175mm high Bosch. The battery I was wondering if it would fit, was 190mm high. So I tested the available height with a 10.5mm thick lathe cutting tool and it cleared easily. I now know my maths was wrong 175 + 10.5 is 185.5 = NOT 190mm. I had a silly moment, but too late - I had already ordered a 190mm high battery yesterday afternoon. It seems unlikely, but just in case there are variations amongst the 75 range, in battery boxes... The internal height of my battery box, with lid removed and measured to the high point of the internal base close to the 'wall', was 187mm. My Varta battery fits around 2mm below the top of this - which suggests the Varta's 190height is probably nearer 185mm. Panic not, it arrived this morning and fitted absolutely fine and I do mean fine. This is the battery I ordered... https://www.tayna.co.uk/E44-Varta-Si...078-P7726.html A 096 E44 77aH; CCA-780 L 278mm, W 175mm, H 190mm It is Varta's top model, with a 5 year guarantee. I paid £65.26, with standard delivery and a £1.77 discount from a promo code I found on line. It was delivered next day, this morning. Promo discount code is - FACEBOOK45 It fits fine, with the lid and the metal bracket and the retaining strap in place. There was no bulging of the lid at all, it fits absolutely perfectly. It was no more of a struggle to get the lid on, than it had been with my earlier 175mm high battery. My old much abused Bosch was 7 years old, I have been looking to replace it for the past couple of years due to its failing capacity, but I have nursed it carefully and it has never let me down. The only thing holding me back, was confusion over the the which was the biggest capacity I could fit, the continual inconclusive discussion on here. I tow and I didn't much fancy risking towing and breaking down with no spare power for lights on a dark back country road. __________________ Harry How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses... http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540 Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing. I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money. Last edited by HarryM1BYT; 21st May 2016 at 11:25..

21st May 2016, 10:41	#3
mininuts This is my second home Cooper S 210 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Port William Posts: 5,309 Thanks: 5,098 Thanked 2,406 Times in 1,631 Posts	Thanks for the definitive answer I'm sure mine's getting ready for a new one, so that's very useful info. Good price too for a top quality battery. __________________ *Paul* 2016 MINI Cooper S 210 : 2000 Rover 75 CDT Classic SE : 2009 Freelander 2 GS : 2000 Mini Cooper Sport : 1986 Mini Mayfair : 1980 Mini Pickup : 1971 Mini Cooper S

28th August 2016, 20:22	#6
KRISTLEE I really should get out more....... None at the moment. Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Hartlepool Posts: 2,067 Thanks: 939 Thanked 384 Times in 294 Posts	I ended up buying one of these batteries a while back....wish I knew this information before lol http://www.halfords.com/motoring/bul...5-yr-guarantee __________________ Best Regards, Lee. DONE: HAD A CRAZY IDEA THAT I HAD TO GET RID OF MY MG ZTT DUE TO NOT HAVING A DRIVE AND HAVING TO PARK ON A BUSY STREET WITH A VIEW TO GETTING ANOTHER ONE AT A LATER DATE WHEN I HAVE A DRIVE. ENDED UP REALISING IT REALLY ISN'T PRACTICAL NOT HAVING A CAR TO GET AROUND AND I NOW OWN A VW EOS 3.2 V6 INDIVIDUAL (1 OF 20 REMAINING IN THE UK WITH THAT ENGINE AND TRIM COMBO) EVEN THOUGH I STILL LIVE ON A BUSY ROAD WITHOUT A DRIVE

14th September 2016, 21:15	#9
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	I have a Yuasa 190mm battery taken from a 52 plate ZT, it fitted perfectly including the lid. I have just gone to fit the Yuasa 190mm battery to a 2001 ZT, and the battery is too tall, battery lid does not fit. The battery I had taken out of the 2001 ZT is a BOSH 180mm... What am I doing wrong, is there a change in battery boxes? Last edited by Dallas; 14th September 2016 at 21:17..

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21st May 2016, 10:41	#2
BigAde Posted a thing or two MG ZT-T+ 135 CDTi Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sussex Posts: 1,502 Thanks: 511 Thanked 224 Times in 178 Posts	Glad you got that sorted Harry and that's useful information to note for future, I too have had great prices and service from Tayna. I got the slightly smaller Varta one last year, for much the same reason - I wasn't sure the bigger one would comfortably fit. Varta make the batteries for Bosch and this is otherwise identical to the Bosch S5 range, same warranty etc, you just pay the extra for the Bosch 'name'.

21st May 2016, 15:46	#5
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,083 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	Ditto - but the Bosch equivalent S5008.

14th September 2016, 20:39	#7
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	I'm confused so how did you get the 190mm battery to fit?

1st October 2016, 19:52	#10
Atcchus Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDT Auto Tourer Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,056 Thanks: 274 Thanked 165 Times in 129 Posts	Thanks Harry for your little research, ordered one today .