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Old 10th December 2021, 12:08   #51
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My problem with the BBC is the totally biased reporting, if Boris or any of his cronies have any indescretions they are hung, Kia {Mr Hindsight ) and his lot can do no wrong. In my view it should be totally unbiased.
Could you provide some examples of 'indescretions' or similar misdemeanours by Sir Keir or senior members of his team? Even the right wing press have been unable to find any dirt to fling at him whatsoever, but if you know better, I would love to hear it!
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Could you provide some examples of 'indescretions' or similar misdemeanours by Sir Keir or senior members of his team? Even the right wing press have been unable to find any dirt to fling at him whatsoever, but if you know better, I would love to hear it!
To be fair, I would expect any such misdemeanor would have been widely published in the Daily (hate) Mail, SUN, Express or Torygraph along with coverage on SKY and of course the well respected GB News channel
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Old 10th December 2021, 20:10   #53
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What a wonderfully positive view on emplyment dynamics.


Did you make that word up all by yourself in an attempt to fool us ??

If so, you stumped me.---

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Old 10th December 2021, 20:15   #54
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To be fair, I would expect any such misdemeanor would have been widely published in the Daily (hate) Mail, SUN, Express or Torygraph along with coverage on SKY and of course the well respected GB News channel
The common criticism of Keir Starmer is usually at the opposite end of the spectrum, where he's accused of being too dull and straightlaced!
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The common criticism of Keir Starmer is usually at the opposite end of the spectrum, where he's accused of being too dull and straightlaced!
Yes, not the most dynamic person lol
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What a wonderfully positive view on emplyment dynamics.


Did you make that word up all by yourself in an attempt to fool us ??

If so, you stumped me.---

Of course.


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Old 11th December 2021, 08:01   #57
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Don't give a toss!!!

LET HE OR SHE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.



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... is this a case of social workers being made scapegoats for severe funding/resourcing shortages leading to a situation that no one is able to do their job effectively.
I quote from the BBC News website:

He was seen by social workers just two months before his death but they concluded there were "no safeguarding concerns".

How can that be a result of "severe funding/resourcing shortages"?

I'd say that laying the blame with money is the convenient excuse to which you also referred.

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If they don't want to let her in there's not a lot she can do about it.
So it's time for an emergency debate so that our MPs can legislate to tackle this problem so that an "Arthur" doesn't happen again.

Now watch how that doesn't happen.

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I am sure none of us want to hear again from an enquiry that opportunities were missed or hear again from social services that lessons will be learnt.

Well said Ian, but we will.
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... if there is not a decent course of action... gaining legal entry by force then we need to give them that power ... let me see the child/adult ...
Exactly Ian. It's not difficult. One wise interviewee suggested these:
  • Show me your fridge and the food you're giving him.
  • Ask him to take off his shirt to look at his back (a horrendous number of bruises were found after death).
  • Visit his school and talk to his teachers.
  • Talk to Arthur alone, away from his parents.

Did Social Services do any of these? I very much doubt it.

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