Roewe 750 - Page 7

tourerfogey · 11th December 2006, 21:53

Hello Zeb

I don't doubt that what you say is true ( I mean, would YOU lie to ME?

) but for the moment it would seem that the Chinese are some way off when it comes to car construction for the reasons I've already stated. So, if the Roewe does make it into the UK and the rest of Europe I don't think it will be for a few years yet.

There is also the misguided general public perception of Rover - too many people thought they were bad cars anyway because that's what's been drummed into them by the likes of Jeremy Clarkson and other parts of the media, so to them the Roewe will probably appear to be a cheap eastern version of what was already a bad car. If the Chinese do decide to sell it here then I reckon they have to get it right first time because the media will not give them a second chance.

Bas

Zeb · 11th December 2006, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by tourerfogey

Hello Zeb

I don't doubt that what you say is true ( I mean, would YOU lie to ME?

) but for the moment it would seem that the Chinese are some way off when it comes to car construction for the reasons I've already stated. So, if the Roewe does make it into the UK and the rest of Europe I don't think it will be for a few years yet.

There is also the misguided general public perception of Rover - too many people thought they were bad cars anyway because that's what's been drummed into them by the likes of Jeremy Clarkson and other parts of the media, so to them the Roewe will probably appear to be a cheap eastern version of what was already a bad car. If the Chinese do decide to sell it here then I reckon they have to get it right first time because the media will not give them a second chance.

Bas

I agree entirely Bas...

Simon · 11th December 2006, 22:35

Agree with M47Rman about the looks. Interior is alright, but does hark at the new 5 series, as does the revised rear end. Front and middle look quite nice, though, especially in the "Premium" version.

I'm not going to hold my breath over the launch of the new Rover (or however its now named), like many I will wait and see what SAIC can come up with and if they can deliver the goods.

On a purely nostalgic and patriotic sense I will always love the Rover 75 and the MG ZT. They are British designed. British built.

And there's that word again "British"....

That word changes everything.

Need I say more?

M47Rman · 12th December 2006, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon D

Agree with M47Rman about the looks. Interior is alright, but does hark at the new 5 series, as does the revised rear end. Front and middle look quite nice, though, especially in the "Premium" version.

I'm not going to hold my breath over the launch of the new Rover (or however its now named), like many I will wait and see what SAIC can come up with and if they can deliver the goods.

On a purely nostalgic and patriotic sense I will always love the Rover 75 and the MG ZT. They are British designed. British built.

And there's that word again "British"....

That word changes everything.

Need I say more?

Absolutely!
Just to follow up on other coments made about the Chinese. I have no doubt, that the Chinese are succeeding, and will continue to. Indeed the computer I am writing this on was made in China! However the best way for them to do this is to develop their own products, not do rip off versions of other peoples designs (how many Chinese versions of the Cherokee are there?). In this way their products, and the companies that produce them will gain the respect that they deserve (or not). At the moment to me they just look like a load of rip off merchants. After all who would not be interested in a high quality, sharp looking, bargain priced motor car?
Still couldn't replace my 75 though!
Andy

Ken · 12th December 2006, 12:52

My pc is also Chinese, the keyboard is confusing but the young lady that came with it is very helpful

JP53 · 12th December 2006, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by tourerfogey

Hello Zeb

I don't doubt that what you say is true ( I mean, would YOU lie to ME?

) but for the moment it would seem that the Chinese are some way off when it comes to car construction for the reasons I've already stated. So, if the Roewe does make it into the UK and the rest of Europe I don't think it will be for a few years yet.

There is also the misguided general public perception of Rover - too many people thought they were bad cars anyway because that's what's been drummed into them by the likes of Jeremy Clarkson and other parts of the media, so to them the Roewe will probably appear to be a cheap eastern version of what was already a bad car. If the Chinese do decide to sell it here then I reckon they have to get it right first time because the media will not give them a second chance.

Bas

What worries me is if we get a Chinese version of Jeremy Clarkson

Having said that, I'm sure that the Chinese government would have him run over by a tank if he bad mouthed their car industry in the same way as the British version did

markperkins · 12th December 2006, 21:12

Interesting reading on this thread.

I have a real regard for this car; but the latest news seems to indicate that we may wait until 2008 for the imports to the UK.
I imagine that putting dealerships in place may take quite a while, if it's to be done well.
Probably worth the wait.

rockydo · 12th December 2006, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by majedm75

Hi,
Check these pages from the one of the main French Rover / Land Rover dealers concerning the Roewe 750.

http://www.rover.fr/roewe/saic-roewe.php

Regards,
Majed

looks good would like to see that rear end with a zt facelift front .. although it dont quite look so british, i like it

tourerfogey · 13th December 2006, 12:42

In this week's Auto Express there is a piece on the Chinese built Brilliance BS6 which is the first Chinese built car to hit the roads of Europe, and the UK in January. It's a large saloon and said to be the sort of car that will compete with the Roewe 75.

Quotes from the piece include:-

'Cheap looking plastics, questionable wood trim and lacklustre build quality let down the interior trim' and the dash looks 'something from the eighties'

'5 speed box has vague shift action'

'Equipment levels leave alot to be desired'

'in the Euro NCAP crash testing programme the BS gained only 2 stars - with some serious concerns being raised about side impact protection'

'Brilliance BS is a massive let down'

'It falls behind rivals in every area'

Estimated price is £15k (Roewe 75 estimated to start at £17K)

Will the Roewe fair any better?

pondweed · 13th December 2006, 18:55

makes me now think that tourer prices are going to rise, and thus that tourer is going to be the true eventual classic - chinese will never get around to estates, although this saloon will no doubt get over here by personal import if not offically... to be a curious blend of rubbish and massive improvement, no doubt.
has anyone any info about SAIC and tourer body...?

11th December 2006, 21:53	#61
tourerfogey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello Zeb I don't doubt that what you say is true ( I mean, would YOU lie to ME? ) but for the moment it would seem that the Chinese are some way off when it comes to car construction for the reasons I've already stated. So, if the Roewe does make it into the UK and the rest of Europe I don't think it will be for a few years yet. There is also the misguided general public perception of Rover - too many people thought they were bad cars anyway because that's what's been drummed into them by the likes of Jeremy Clarkson and other parts of the media, so to them the Roewe will probably appear to be a cheap eastern version of what was already a bad car. If the Chinese do decide to sell it here then I reckon they have to get it right first time because the media will not give them a second chance. Bas

11th December 2006, 22:35	#63
Simon Banned - Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: - Posts: 10,318 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Agree with M47Rman about the looks. Interior is alright, but does hark at the new 5 series, as does the revised rear end. Front and middle look quite nice, though, especially in the "Premium" version. I'm not going to hold my breath over the launch of the new Rover (or however its now named), like many I will wait and see what SAIC can come up with and if they can deliver the goods. On a purely nostalgic and patriotic sense I will always love the Rover 75 and the MG ZT. They are British designed. British built. And there's that word again "British".... That word changes everything. Need I say more?

12th December 2006, 12:52	#65
Ken Busy doing nothing! . Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hampshire Posts: 6,373 Thanks: 33 Thanked 44 Times in 16 Posts	My pc is also Chinese, the keyboard is confusing but the young lady that came with it is very helpful

12th December 2006, 21:12	#67
markperkins Regular poster Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connoiseur SE Automatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Poole Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting reading on this thread. I have a real regard for this car; but the latest news seems to indicate that we may wait until 2008 for the imports to the UK. I imagine that putting dealerships in place may take quite a while, if it's to be done well. Probably worth the wait.

13th December 2006, 12:42	#69
tourerfogey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	In this week's Auto Express there is a piece on the Chinese built Brilliance BS6 which is the first Chinese built car to hit the roads of Europe, and the UK in January. It's a large saloon and said to be the sort of car that will compete with the Roewe 75. Quotes from the piece include:- 'Cheap looking plastics, questionable wood trim and lacklustre build quality let down the interior trim' and the dash looks 'something from the eighties' '5 speed box has vague shift action' 'Equipment levels leave alot to be desired' 'in the Euro NCAP crash testing programme the BS gained only 2 stars - with some serious concerns being raised about side impact protection' 'Brilliance BS is a massive let down' 'It falls behind rivals in every area' Estimated price is £15k (Roewe 75 estimated to start at £17K) Will the Roewe fair any better?

13th December 2006, 18:55	#70
pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	makes me now think that tourer prices are going to rise, and thus that tourer is going to be the true eventual classic - chinese will never get around to estates, although this saloon will no doubt get over here by personal import if not offically... to be a curious blend of rubbish and massive improvement, no doubt. has anyone any info about SAIC and tourer body...?