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Old 23rd May 2019, 14:17   #11
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No you can't, well certainly not safely

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That's what I thought so I asked that question.


( Must be doing something right as I still have all my fingers at 82.-----)
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Old 23rd May 2019, 14:43   #12
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Just to be clear. Do you mean you can access and replace the top bearing without actually removing the strut from the car ???
Not in a month of Sundays - No.
But with the whole leg off the car IE:
Drop off the caliper complete & detach hose mount and tie / support
Drop off the track rod end and drop link from anti roll bar end.
Drop off the hub nut and bottom ball joint from the hub.
ABS wiring plug from engine bay
Then the 3 turret nuts off, then you have the whole leg there in your hand.
Place the leg into a vice or secure as well as possible, attach your spring clamps to the spring and the lower clamps to the PLATFORM BASE.
Attach a load strap to the middle of the coils and loop the strap to the leg lower end and take the slack up gradually as you slowly compress the spring sufficiently to release the top mount components, at this stage dont release the clamps or strap! Leave it all in the compressed state. A small clamping device to prevent the piston receeding is a good plan and will save time !
Remove the top mount, Clean components, re-assemble the top mount and attach ensuring the spring is still located at the base properly. Slowly release the clamps and strap progressively. This completed the re-fit is similar to removal process.
Plenty have been done using this strategy, even on a call out process in public car parks where the spring has broken.
So easily done with good tooling and the process of safety as paramount importance !

The piston clamp to prevent the strut receding is -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLAMP-FOR...72.m2749.l2649

Happy to do it if your in doubt !
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Old 23rd May 2019, 22:51   #13
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Thanks, not sure I fancy messing with spring clamps on this car, it was dodgy enough on the little springs on the wifeís corsa, ZT springs look a lot more destructive. I think the driver side spring has started to rust fairly bad too, so should imagine Iíd be best replacing that while Iím there, and then Iíd have to do the other side. The more I type the more Iím convincing myself itís a garage job!
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Old 23rd May 2019, 23:06   #14
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I had mine done at a garage, it wasn't overly expensive.
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Old 24th May 2019, 11:05   #15
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Thanks, not sure I fancy messing with spring clamps on this car, it was dodgy enough on the little springs on the wifeís corsa, ZT springs look a lot more destructive. I think the driver side spring has started to rust fairly bad too, so should imagine Iíd be best replacing that while Iím there, and then Iíd have to do the other side. The more I type the more Iím convincing myself itís a garage job!
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Old 24th May 2019, 11:14   #16
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Not in a month of Sundays - No.
But with the whole leg off the car IE:
Drop off the caliper complete & detach hose mount and tie / support
Drop off the track rod end and drop link from anti roll bar end.
Drop off the hub nut and bottom ball joint from the hub.
ABS wiring plug from engine bay
Then the 3 turret nuts off, then you have the whole leg there in your hand.
Place the leg into a vice or secure as well as possible, attach your spring clamps to the spring and the lower clamps to the PLATFORM BASE.
Attach a load strap to the middle of the coils and loop the strap to the leg lower end and take the slack up gradually as you slowly compress the spring sufficiently to release the top mount components, at this stage dont release the clamps or strap! Leave it all in the compressed state. A small clamping device to prevent the piston receeding is a good plan and will save time !
Remove the top mount, Clean components, re-assemble the top mount and attach ensuring the spring is still located at the base properly. Slowly release the clamps and strap progressively. This completed the re-fit is similar to removal process.
Plenty have been done using this strategy, even on a call out process in public car parks where the spring has broken.
So easily done with good tooling and the process of safety as paramount importance !

The piston clamp to prevent the strut receding is -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLAMP-FOR...72.m2749.l2649

Happy to do it if your in doubt !
Wow. Now that's a TINY bit different to your number 8 post.---


Not really a DIY job for most folk.---
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Old 24th May 2019, 18:01   #17
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Wow. Now that's a TINY bit different to your number 8 post.---


Not really a DIY job for most folk.---
Really ?

The post 8 gave a brief idea of the "Plan of attack"
The following post I made, gave a bit more detail, but either way - after you've done a few of these they are far from a complex job. The safety aspect is important, but just to add to the post :
As this is a ZT, the spring length is much shorter than a standard 75 spring for a diesel, this in part makes the job much easier.

Anyhow, I have made the offer and that's that !

Nothing in life was made to be easy, but we find ways to manage the hurdles as they come along !
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Really ?

The post 8 gave a brief idea of the "Plan of attack"
The following post I made, gave a bit more detail, but either way - after you've done a few of these they are far from a complex job. The safety aspect is important, but just to add to the post :
As this is a ZT, the spring length is much shorter than a standard 75 spring for a diesel, this in part makes the job much easier.

Anyhow, I have made the offer and that's that !

Nothing in life was made to be easy, but we find ways to manage the hurdles as they come along !
I didn't see the offer of help before. I'll get back to you on that, currently trying to price up parts on rimmers but their site doesn't seem to be working properly for me at the moment.
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Old 25th May 2019, 11:13   #19
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Roger. Lots of the forum members have few tools and little knowledge of mechanical things. Probably more than 90% of the car drivers on the road have no idea how their car works.

The work you suggest is complex. I suspect you are looking at this from an engineers point of view.

For instance a couple of my intelligent friends, accountant/stock exchange members, wouldn't even be sure what end of a spanner to use. Like the majority of car owners they pay others to do the dirty work.--
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Roger. Lots of the forum members have few tools and little knowledge of mechanical things. Probably more than 90% of the car drivers on the road have no idea how their car works.

The work you suggest is complex. I suspect you are looking at this from an engineers point of view.

For instance a couple of my intelligent friends, accountant/stock exchange members, wouldn't even be sure what end of a spanner to use. Like the majority of car owners they pay others to do the dirty work.--
I understand you, I look after plenty of these when time allows.
Yes I have the tools, experience and enthusiasm to perform this type of repair and have spent many occasions working alongside PhilT-4 completing many repairs that many would not even dream of doing.
So I hear what you say. I cannot do simple things like decorate a room, or fit carpets for example, so we all have our specific forte
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