Scotland to break from the union.? - Page 14

Ros3 · 9th January 2012, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Rabett_Rover

Fair point, but as a result of devolution you do get sovereignty over key issues such as planning, which has allowed Holyrood to block Westminster's attempts to build new Nuclear Powerstations in Scotland for example. Because you do have De Facto Sovereignty, just not De Jure.

I am English yes, but have plenty of family ‘over the boarder’

''Being dictated to and told to like it''... hmm sounds very much the same as it does in Essex, somethings don’t change with independence

Fair play..

COLVERT · 9th January 2012, 21:21

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Originally Posted by FLYER

They were told what to do john [sound familier mate ???]

How about the Welsh George.There was one freedom that wasn't touched.

See Below. Lol. ( There was no restriction at all on how many of those you HAD. )

Ros3 · 9th January 2012, 21:23

Why is it most of the post's saying Scotland wouldent make it on there own are from what seem's to be English poster's. The reality is England need's Scotland, Wales and Ireland more than we all need them me think's..

FLYER · 9th January 2012, 21:26

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Originally Posted by COLVERT

How about the Welsh George.There was one freedom that wasn't touched.

See Below. Lol

mmmmmmm welsh lamb , yummy

FredSpencer · 9th January 2012, 21:29

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Originally Posted by ros3

Mate im trying hard to agree with you on that point but i think you have got it all wrong. Of course it's not the man in the street who make's the desicion's.

And yes it is one nation over another. If it wasent then we wouldent be disscusing this matter.

Well, you've flummoxed me with that one.

It isn't a 'country' that has power, it is people, a few people. Your man Salmond wants to make his name as the the one who got independence for Scotland (although even he isn't actually going for full independence) but there have been plenty of Scots who want the Union to continue, not least the last Prime Minister, for instance.

Ros3 · 9th January 2012, 21:30

This thread has been brilliant. But got to go now. So to all the Englishmen south of the border chin up i'm sure that if we Scot's decide to stay in the Union with you then you'll be all right..

FLYER · 9th January 2012, 21:34

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Originally Posted by FredSpencer

Well, you've flummoxed me with that one.

It isn't a 'country' that has power, it is people, a few people. Your man Salmond wants to make his name as the the one who got independence for Scotland (although even he isn't actually going for full independence) but there have been plenty of Scots who want the Union to continue, not least the last Prime Minister, for instance.

I dont get this ALEX SALMOND stuff , he leads the party thats all , he,s the figurehead , a party is about it,s ideals , nicola sturgeon is to my mind a far better person to lead the party .

Stop pointing at one man and look at the bigger picture .

BTW pointing out that politicoes are self seeking egomaniacs is a bit futile me old

FLYER · 9th January 2012, 21:36

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Originally Posted by ros3

This thread has been brilliant. But got to go now. So to all the Englishmen south of the border chin up i'm sure that if we Scot's decide to stay in the Union with you then you'll be all right..

thats right push off and leave me to be torn to pieces by the english bulldog .

Ragman · 9th January 2012, 21:37

hey ho - know the guys in Plymouth and Portsmouth will be glad of the jobs from Faslane when the boats come south

Ros3 · 9th January 2012, 21:38

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Originally Posted by FredSpencer

Well, you've flummoxed me with that one.

It isn't a 'country' that has power, it is people, a few people. Your man Salmond wants to make his name as the the one who got independence for Scotland (although even he isn't actually going for full independence) but there have been plenty of Scots who want the Union to continue, not least the last Prime Minister, for instance.

Ah hear ye mate. But i country isent made up of a few people. Sure they are governed over by a few individuals but the country as a whole includes everyone in it.. And right maybe independance for Scotland, Wales and Ireland isent the best thing that could happen but the people's of those countrys should be given the freedom to choose and not just be dictated to and told "you'll never make it on your own if it wasent for us you would be nothing". We should all of us be give a vote on independance and the result should stand and it would put this argument to bed once and for all..

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Ros3 This is my second home Rover 75 V6 saloon (gone to the Rover garage in the sky), Mazda mx5 Phoenix. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cumnock Posts: 3,215 Thanks: 347 Thanked 157 Times in 92 Posts	This thread has been brilliant. But got to go now. So to all the Englishmen south of the border chin up i'm sure that if we Scot's decide to stay in the Union with you then you'll be all right..