ZTT190 Water pump failure

horsham dave · 9th December 2013, 10:03

Hi after a nice weekend in somerset this weekend,i were driving along at about 65 when the temp guage shot up to hot and the light came on,and the heater went cold i pulled in to a garage forcourt,and there was masses of steam and a jet coming from area of the water pump,also the timing belt cover was now pushing hard up against the auxilary belt, The AA chap said looks like the pump bearing has gone or the pump shaft could have sheared allowing the water pump pulley to be pushing against the cover,i had previousley noticed small patches of water underneath the car (timing side)so could it be a water pump failure?,my worry now is could it have done any further damage to the engine,there is no oil in the water,or water in the oil,has anyone else had the same thing happen to them.any help would be great.any idea of the cost,i love the car but could the cost of repair outway the value of the car.
many thanks
Dave.

KWIL · 9th December 2013, 10:21

If the pump shaft has gone, don't run the engine before the whole area of belts has nbeen looked at.

trikey · 9th December 2013, 11:01

Agree with KWIL, going to be new pump and belts time I'm afraid!

SD1too · 9th December 2013, 17:20

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Originally Posted by horsham dave

... my worry now is could it have done any further damage to the engine ...

If you were able to bring the car to a standstill with the engine still running, then probably no.

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... any idea of the cost ...

I'm afraid not; it depends upon what is found when the water pump area is exposed. As said above, if the engine kept running then the primary cambelt must still be intact and that would be good news.

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... could the cost of repair outway the value of the car.

The value of the car is what it's worth to you, and you say that you love it, so get it fixed!

But what people usually mean by 'value' is the trade-in price. In my view that is completely irrelevant. Why get rid of a good car which just needs a repair, then end up paying far more buying another one? It doesn't make sense to me.

Good luck with it Dave.

Simon

capese21 · 9th December 2013, 18:12

What mileage has the water pump done? It should not cost a fortune to fix.

Others have had a complete cambelt change for around £350 which is similar labour.

Ed.

kaiser · 9th December 2013, 18:25

It all depends. If the waterpump has come to pieces but the piece has been prevented from totally leaving the pump, by the plastic cover, then you might get away with no engine damage.
That selfsame thing happened to our 1.8T, but I thought I was extremely lucky, you might be too!

horsham dave · 9th December 2013, 20:10

Thanks for all the comments chaps,feel a bit happier now,will post the results when fixed,one further thing,i have found on e.bay a set of belts,pulleys and water pump for around £173.00 pounds,does this sound a fair price.
thanks
Dave.

9th December 2013, 10:03	#1
horsham dave Newbie MG ZT-T Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SOUTHWATER Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ZTT190 Water pump failure Hi after a nice weekend in somerset this weekend,i were driving along at about 65 when the temp guage shot up to hot and the light came on,and the heater went cold i pulled in to a garage forcourt,and there was masses of steam and a jet coming from area of the water pump,also the timing belt cover was now pushing hard up against the auxilary belt, The AA chap said looks like the pump bearing has gone or the pump shaft could have sheared allowing the water pump pulley to be pushing against the cover,i had previousley noticed small patches of water underneath the car (timing side)so could it be a water pump failure?,my worry now is could it have done any further damage to the engine,there is no oil in the water,or water in the oil,has anyone else had the same thing happen to them.any help would be great.any idea of the cost,i love the car but could the cost of repair outway the value of the car. many thanks Dave. Last edited by horsham dave; 9th December 2013 at 10:18..

9th December 2013, 11:01	#3
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,772 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Agree with KWIL, going to be new pump and belts time I'm afraid! __________________ Lest we forget..

9th December 2013, 20:10	#7
horsham dave Newbie MG ZT-T Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SOUTHWATER Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks guys Thanks for all the comments chaps,feel a bit happier now,will post the results when fixed,one further thing,i have found on e.bay a set of belts,pulleys and water pump for around £173.00 pounds,does this sound a fair price. thanks Dave.

9th December 2013, 10:21	#2
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	If the pump shaft has gone, don't run the engine before the whole area of belts has nbeen looked at.

9th December 2013, 18:12	#5
capese21 This is my second home MG ZTT 180 Sports Auto. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 3,930 Thanks: 18 Thanked 180 Times in 143 Posts	What mileage has the water pump done? It should not cost a fortune to fix. Others have had a complete cambelt change for around £350 which is similar labour. Ed.

9th December 2013, 18:25	#6
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	It all depends. If the waterpump has come to pieces but the piece has been prevented from totally leaving the pump, by the plastic cover, then you might get away with no engine damage. That selfsame thing happened to our 1.8T, but I thought I was extremely lucky, you might be too!