Finally - Redundant

stocktake · 16th March 2018, 17:06

Those of you who know me will know I have Worked for Carillion for over 15yrs.

In one particular period I was put on notice of redundancy 8 times in 7 years, usually in December. Slowly but surely they chipped away at everyone in our department until there was only me left. I was originally a one of over 100 surveyors. I then offered the role of National Field Service Manager. Covering the asset registers of the whole of the country and I can tell you it was certainly a mess when we took control of it from local offices/schools/ police stations/hospitals/courts some 18 months ago.

We have been working regular 60 to 70 hour weeks and I know the Premier Inn menu backwards. Then just as we got a grip on the teams on site the company went into liquidation on 15th Jan 18.

We had to attend conference calls daily at first to see if we still had a job the following day. Some people worked from the 15th to the 30th of Jan only to get a letter on the 30th telling them they were made redundant on the 16th. Some people received phone calls at 4:30pm telling them to clear their desks they were redundant at 5:00pm

Then it went to weekly. My department were told that as we oversee the whole of the country Asset register that the many contracts would be split up into smaller groups and sold off so there would be no need for our team. We accepted this and just waited for our leaving date,. Everything then went quiet for a week or two.

A fresh announcement informed everyone that a Canadian company had successfully negotiated the purchase of the majority of the contracts and therefore the overseeing quality control (my team) would be needed.

On Monday we were quietly informed the deal had fallen through and we would be made redundant on Thursday 15th.

I accept that these things happen, what makes me and my team bitter is the callous way the liquidators have withheld information and played with peoples heads. I am mentally drained and stress levels have recently been through the roof. I am truly glad it is all over. First time in my life since i was 15 over 45 yr ago I have no job.

So, thankyou to the four directors who saw fit only last year to pay themselves massive bonuses for doing such a good job and luckily sold all their shares just before they crashed.

Dave (possibly retired

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minimutly · 16th March 2018, 17:11

Hope you find something to keep you going until retirement, shame the whole lot had to come to this - Uk management has been woefull for years, from the Government down, we couldn't organise a pissup in this country...

sworks · 16th March 2018, 17:14

Hope your ok mate, I remember when you kept getting your notice of redundancy. I hope your in a position to retire and put your feet up and have a well deserved rest

trebor · 16th March 2018, 17:20

Dave that's truly awful , I remember your annual posts about redundancy when you were left hanging on a string each year and then told you would be kept on, plus you have not been well in the recent past and now this !

It won't be the first or last time directors can get away with cutting and running and getting away with paying themselves large bonuses with no apparent consequences, as for receivers they will be the first paid out of the pot.

Groundsman Willie · 16th March 2018, 17:23

Sorry to hear that, the whole Carillon mess was, and still is, a disgrace. The company I worked for, ISS, was part of the Carillion military base and housing grounds maintenance contract. The Carillon "organization" lost ISS so much money, that we lost our own local authority contract (luckily we tupe'd over to new contractors) as we were bailing out the Carillon side, and ISS have now sold up the whole landscaping side of their business as they've had enough.
Unfortunately, this seems to be a gift that will keep on giving as other contractors and sub contractors struggle to deal with the aftermath of this debacle.
As you say, the orchestrators seem to have done rather well out of it. Everyone else though.......
Good luck, hopefully something will turn up

humphshumphs · 16th March 2018, 17:26

Hmm 4 directors.... sounds familiar

willshot · 16th March 2018, 17:46

Early retirement beckons, Dave. If you ask Marina nicely she'll compile a list of jobs she wants doing.

suzublu · 16th March 2018, 17:50

Put your feet up mate, you deserve it

I'm enjoying my early retirement loads, no longer on the clock, if you can afford it, do it

madeupname · 16th March 2018, 18:02

That's horrible Dave. I know I don't have enough to retire on yet and would be up the creek without a job.
All I can suggest is get down to citizens advice and see what you can claim.
Odd jobs can bring in a few extra quid too

bl52krz · 16th March 2018, 18:06

As with the banks, the rich look after the rich by doing nothing about their theft of money, yes theft. ‘‘Twas always the same ,and until the little people get together and do something about it, twill remain the same. Sorry to hear about your redundancy Dave. If you can, put your feet up and add up what you have got with regards to filthy lucre, and if like me you are not an excessively money spender, you have your retirement and enjoy yourself mate. I packed up at 62 and have never looked back, and to be honest after 16 years, we have not had to pull our horns yet. Good luck.

16th March 2018, 17:06	#1
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,591 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	Finally - Redundant Those of you who know me will know I have Worked for Carillion for over 15yrs. In one particular period I was put on notice of redundancy 8 times in 7 years, usually in December. Slowly but surely they chipped away at everyone in our department until there was only me left. I was originally a one of over 100 surveyors. I then offered the role of National Field Service Manager. Covering the asset registers of the whole of the country and I can tell you it was certainly a mess when we took control of it from local offices/schools/ police stations/hospitals/courts some 18 months ago. We have been working regular 60 to 70 hour weeks and I know the Premier Inn menu backwards. Then just as we got a grip on the teams on site the company went into liquidation on 15th Jan 18. We had to attend conference calls daily at first to see if we still had a job the following day. Some people worked from the 15th to the 30th of Jan only to get a letter on the 30th telling them they were made redundant on the 16th. Some people received phone calls at 4:30pm telling them to clear their desks they were redundant at 5:00pm Then it went to weekly. My department were told that as we oversee the whole of the country Asset register that the many contracts would be split up into smaller groups and sold off so there would be no need for our team. We accepted this and just waited for our leaving date,. Everything then went quiet for a week or two. A fresh announcement informed everyone that a Canadian company had successfully negotiated the purchase of the majority of the contracts and therefore the overseeing quality control (my team) would be needed. On Monday we were quietly informed the deal had fallen through and we would be made redundant on Thursday 15th. I accept that these things happen, what makes me and my team bitter is the callous way the liquidators have withheld information and played with peoples heads. I am mentally drained and stress levels have recently been through the roof. I am truly glad it is all over. First time in my life since i was 15 over 45 yr ago I have no job. So, thankyou to the four directors who saw fit only last year to pay themselves massive bonuses for doing such a good job and luckily sold all their shares just before they crashed. Dave (possibly retired ) __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

16th March 2018, 17:14	#3
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	Hope your ok mate, I remember when you kept getting your notice of redundancy. I hope your in a position to retire and put your feet up and have a well deserved rest __________________ ................................................. 'Marmite' Possibly one of the most famous 75 tourers produced! left the production line as the last of only Three Rover 75 tourers produced in Trophy Yellow. 48 hours later Longbridge closed. The last sold ordered 75 Tourer. Paid for by the Phoenix Four and handed over by John Towers to the Warwickshire Northampton Air ambulance service as a Rapid Response vehicle

16th March 2018, 17:20	#4
trebor This is my second home Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur SE & MG ZT Saloon 190 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Coven Posts: 12,523 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,877 Times in 885 Posts	Dave that's truly awful , I remember your annual posts about redundancy when you were left hanging on a string each year and then told you would be kept on, plus you have not been well in the recent past and now this ! It won't be the first or last time directors can get away with cutting and running and getting away with paying themselves large bonuses with no apparent consequences, as for receivers they will be the first paid out of the pot. __________________ www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk Robs Car Gallery Coven near Wolverhampton WV9 2000 Cowley Built Rover 75 2.0 V6 Club SE/ Atlantic Blue/ Sandstone/Walnut (daily driver) 2003 Land Rover Freelander 1 TD4 HSE Helsinki Blue/Black Leather (swmbo daily driver)

16th March 2018, 17:23	#5
Groundsman Willie Gets stuck in Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Newbury Posts: 842 Thanks: 783 Thanked 423 Times in 264 Posts	Sorry to hear that, the whole Carillon mess was, and still is, a disgrace. The company I worked for, ISS, was part of the Carillion military base and housing grounds maintenance contract. The Carillon "organization" lost ISS so much money, that we lost our own local authority contract (luckily we tupe'd over to new contractors) as we were bailing out the Carillon side, and ISS have now sold up the whole landscaping side of their business as they've had enough. Unfortunately, this seems to be a gift that will keep on giving as other contractors and sub contractors struggle to deal with the aftermath of this debacle. As you say, the orchestrators seem to have done rather well out of it. Everyone else though....... Good luck, hopefully something will turn up __________________ Dave

16th March 2018, 17:26	#6
humphshumphs I really should get out more....... No longer a Rover Owner Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: As far east as you can go in the UK and not get wet feet. Posts: 2,273 Thanks: 404 Thanked 309 Times in 246 Posts	Hmm 4 directors.... sounds familiar __________________ Richard. No longer a 75 owner as my tourer made it to the moon, and died on it's way back. But 1/4 million miles ain't bad.

16th March 2018, 17:11	#2
minimutly Posted a thing or two mg zt Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: cardigan Posts: 1,087 Thanks: 28 Thanked 187 Times in 158 Posts	Hope you find something to keep you going until retirement, shame the whole lot had to come to this - Uk management has been woefull for years, from the Government down, we couldn't organise a pissup in this country...

16th March 2018, 17:46	#7
willshot Posted a thing or two Ex-ZI190 owner. ,Ford Focus RS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malton Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 1,123 Thanked 301 Times in 198 Posts	Early retirement beckons, Dave. If you ask Marina nicely she'll compile a list of jobs she wants doing.

16th March 2018, 17:50	#8
suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,921 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	Put your feet up mate, you deserve it I'm enjoying my early retirement loads, no longer on the clock, if you can afford it, do it

16th March 2018, 18:02	#9
madeupname Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie Mk2 1.8 (Mo) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 875 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	That's horrible Dave. I know I don't have enough to retire on yet and would be up the creek without a job. All I can suggest is get down to citizens advice and see what you can claim. Odd jobs can bring in a few extra quid too __________________ Mo was born Tuesday, 22nd June 2004 @ 08:32:41 This vehicle was the 99,307th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 5,377th 75 1.8 Connoisseur to be made out of 6,033 This vehicle was the 783rd 75 in Firefrost Red (code: CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75s

16th March 2018, 18:06	#10
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,394 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	As with the banks, the rich look after the rich by doing nothing about their theft of money, yes theft. ‘‘Twas always the same ,and until the little people get together and do something about it, twill remain the same. Sorry to hear about your redundancy Dave. If you can, put your feet up and add up what you have got with regards to filthy lucre, and if like me you are not an excessively money spender, you have your retirement and enjoy yourself mate. I packed up at 62 and have never looked back, and to be honest after 16 years, we have not had to pull our horns yet. Good luck. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.