Missing exhaust heatshield? Now an MOT failure. - Page 2

victorgte · 29th May 2018, 19:19

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Originally Posted by topman

My other half's car (not a corsa) has that problem. The threaded portion and the nut is just rust. The two I've tried getting off just snapped off straight away, so I didn't bother with the rest.
I've managed to get it holding clear of the exhaust and it's doing it's job but held on by another secure method. I wonder what the next MoT tester will make of it?

My bolts were in pretty good nick. It was the heat shield that had crumbled away and dropped. Just for good measure I put any nut, screw, bolt, washer back on the car with a smear of copper grease. Adds a little protection to the part and makes it easier to remove again if necessary. I’ve just bought a selection of bolts and washers in stainless steel. Over time all the cars will have them fitted.

cbr1100xx · 29th May 2018, 20:51

Where do you stand if the original heat shield is missing but you have some of the heat reflective pads instead?
Has it got to be an original heat shield?

Mgaz · 29th May 2018, 22:46

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Originally Posted by wullie480

I've ran my zt for years with one missing.

No need to replace mine but can see as you say Jim main steelers rubbing there hands.

Yet another license to print money, it seems.

Its getting stupid now, isn't it?

Soon it will be as bad as it is in some parts of America, where if your car isn't 100% standard as it left the factory, its 'illegal' .

Even when the changes make no difference to the safety of the vehicle.

I think the problem is that the government doesn't employ real car people/enthusiasts who know their stuff to advise them.

Instead they employ Career pen pushers with zero interest in vehicles and 100% interest in their next 'job promotion' and next years bonus.

Les4048 · 30th May 2018, 04:29

To be honest if there’s supposed to be a heat shield there just fix the one that’s there or replace. I know it runs fine without it but why not fix the original?

topman · 30th May 2018, 06:10

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Originally Posted by Les4048

To be honest if there’s supposed to be a heat shield there just fix the one that’s there or replace. I know it runs fine without it but why not fix the original?

In my case it was pretty tricky to repair, I guess it would need the studs drilling out and new ones welding in ?

I've done a repair it's no longer rattling about but the original way of holding it up. Any MoT testers now if that's an issue?

stocktake · 30th May 2018, 06:14

I suppose the argument is: Why is the heatshield there in the first place.

MSS · 30th May 2018, 08:20

I do not understand the various points about heat shields and the MOT. They were designed in by the manufacturer for a reason and were not removed by project drive presumably because they were considered an essential part of the car. It appears that safety could be the only reason for fitting the heat shields.

An "enthusiast" can not possibly have a better understanding of the function of the shields than the engineers who spent hundreds of hours testing the effect of such items when fitted.

Given the price at Rimmers, it is possible to purchase a complete new set for the price of two tankfulls of fuel. So they are not exactly super expensive.

There really is not a bog deal here. The MOT is finally becoming effective in its objectives!

trikey · 30th May 2018, 12:39

So what about when you’ve fitted twin pipes at the rear? The shield over the rh side one was not fitted in the factory so would it fail the mot?

Brunty · 30th May 2018, 13:01

Spoke to MOT tester this morning when I took to V6 auto in for second auto box fluid change.
Tells me that he is only concerned with heat shields in engine compartment and above cats or dpfs. Would not fail for missing heat shield above rear silencer.

roverbarmy · 30th May 2018, 13:39

I'm glad that I kept mine in the garage! Another job to do!

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stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,593 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	I suppose the argument is: Why is the heatshield there in the first place. __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

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MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,091 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	I do not understand the various points about heat shields and the MOT. They were designed in by the manufacturer for a reason and were not removed by project drive presumably because they were considered an essential part of the car. It appears that safety could be the only reason for fitting the heat shields. An "enthusiast" can not possibly have a better understanding of the function of the shields than the engineers who spent hundreds of hours testing the effect of such items when fitted. Given the price at Rimmers, it is possible to purchase a complete new set for the price of two tankfulls of fuel. So they are not exactly super expensive. There really is not a bog deal here. The MOT is finally becoming effective in its objectives! Last edited by MSS; 30th May 2018 at 08:31..

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trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,807 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	So what about when you’ve fitted twin pipes at the rear? The shield over the rh side one was not fitted in the factory so would it fail the mot? __________________ Lest we forget..

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roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,060 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	I'm glad that I kept mine in the garage! Another job to do! __________________ Oil in my veins!

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Les4048 This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer/ MG ZT-T 400 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lhanbryde Posts: 3,278 Thanks: 2,627 Thanked 1,523 Times in 869 Posts	To be honest if there’s supposed to be a heat shield there just fix the one that’s there or replace. I know it runs fine without it but why not fix the original?

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Brunty Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Newtown Posts: 418 Thanks: 273 Thanked 95 Times in 65 Posts	Spoke to MOT tester this morning when I took to V6 auto in for second auto box fluid change. Tells me that he is only concerned with heat shields in engine compartment and above cats or dpfs. Would not fail for missing heat shield above rear silencer.