MOT Failure - Headlamp aim too low - Page 2

JOHN STRANG · 20th April 2007, 08:40

Last month my ZT-T Failed due to headlight aim too low on offside, wrong alignment on nearside. They could not adjust nearside told me to take it to a main dealer.
Had a look with them and found bulb was not seated properly.

Take it the test centers are clamping down on headlight alignments.
Other Failure was water damage in the number plate.

Gone are the days when you thought it was all mechanical parts to check over.
J

JohnDotCom · 20th April 2007, 09:25

A Local MOT Station is checking the spare Tyre Tread and if not correct failing car. (So don't leave it in!)
Their comment if its in the car it has to be legal is correct, but still I believe is not listed on MOT requirements.

Kandyman · 20th April 2007, 09:37

It is against the law to have a bald spare tyre and could lead to 3 points on your licenses if stopped and checked by the police or fail a MOT if checked by a garage.

JohnDotCom · 20th April 2007, 10:36

Obviously wouldn't condone anyone for carrying a Bald Spare, and breaking the Law. I just had not seen a MOT station check it before and did not see it on list of things to check.
But as you say better to check it if someone has forget as police do check the spare on spot checks if carried!

raykay · 20th April 2007, 22:56

From the AA legal website:

There is no legal obligation to carry a spare tyre.

It does not have to comply with the legal requirements while it is stowed away.

A spare tyre is not a testable item in the MOT test, though the examiner may draw your attention to an unserviceable item as a matter of courtesy

JohnDotCom · 20th April 2007, 23:26

Thanks Ray, Though I dare say the Police would say if its on Board and a event occured you would use it so 3 points and Fine!
Thought that was correct about MOT though. Thanks.

raykay · 21st April 2007, 09:07

It's the 'using' that is the offence, you are not using the spare wheel, just carrying it. Although I suppose advice may be given, in the same way as the MOT tester that if you had a puncture you would use it and then the offence would be complete.

marimasse · 9th November 2007, 05:36

It seems that some kind of "road hysteria" about introducing all kinds of new duties and prohibitions and fines, gradually more and more absurd, is not only an Italian matter.
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Going on like this, in the future we will probably be heavily fined for having a screwdriver or little knife in the boot. You actually could use them, for example, to alter some engine adjustments related to air pollution or to cut some pipes of the braking system or even to harm or kill somebody...

BT@Home · 9th November 2007, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lates

Mmmmmmmm £15/hour means lots and lots of cars to pay the rent.

Ah, but surely it was £15 labour charge (not £15 per hour). The actual time it took for adjusting a headlight was probably less than 5 mins.

Keith · 9th November 2007, 09:22

Recently my Mot tester has played about with my headlights which I felt were fine

I asked him why and he said each MOT must run for at least 45 minutes i.e one MOT operator can't start another one on the computer system until 45 minutes have passed that is to give them an incentive to do a thorough test and not just bang through dozens of cars a day at £45 a go.

So they kill time by correcting headlights if slightly out and double checking steering suspension etc

He actually said he would never charge to adjust the lights unless some dismantling was required to avoid a fail because that would effectively be double charging the customer for the time thay have already paid for.

20th April 2007, 08:40	#11
JOHN STRANG Newbie MG ZT-T Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	MOT Headlight Failure Last month my ZT-T Failed due to headlight aim too low on offside, wrong alignment on nearside. They could not adjust nearside told me to take it to a main dealer. Had a look with them and found bulb was not seated properly. Take it the test centers are clamping down on headlight alignments. Other Failure was water damage in the number plate. Gone are the days when you thought it was all mechanical parts to check over. J

20th April 2007, 09:25	#12
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	A Local MOT Station is checking the spare Tyre Tread and if not correct failing car. (So don't leave it in!) Their comment if its in the car it has to be legal is correct, but still I believe is not listed on MOT requirements.

20th April 2007, 09:37	#13
Kandyman Banned ROVER 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Limousine 2004 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Welling Posts: 10,995 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	It is against the law to have a bald spare tyre and could lead to 3 points on your licenses if stopped and checked by the police or fail a MOT if checked by a garage.

20th April 2007, 10:36	#14
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Obviously wouldn't condone anyone for carrying a Bald Spare, and breaking the Law. I just had not seen a MOT station check it before and did not see it on list of things to check. But as you say better to check it if someone has forget as police do check the spare on spot checks if carried!

20th April 2007, 22:56	#15
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	From the AA legal website: There is no legal obligation to carry a spare tyre. It does not have to comply with the legal requirements while it is stowed away. A spare tyre is not a testable item in the MOT test, though the examiner may draw your attention to an unserviceable item as a matter of courtesy

20th April 2007, 23:26	#16
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks Ray, Though I dare say the Police would say if its on Board and a event occured you would use it so 3 points and Fine! Thought that was correct about MOT though. Thanks.

21st April 2007, 09:07	#17
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	It's the 'using' that is the offence, you are not using the spare wheel, just carrying it. Although I suppose advice may be given, in the same way as the MOT tester that if you had a puncture you would use it and then the offence would be complete.

9th November 2007, 05:36	#18
marimasse Regular poster Rover 75 CDTi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It seems that some kind of "road hysteria" about introducing all kinds of new duties and prohibitions and fines, gradually more and more absurd, is not only an Italian matter. . Going on like this, in the future we will probably be heavily fined for having a screwdriver or little knife in the boot. You actually could use them, for example, to alter some engine adjustments related to air pollution or to cut some pipes of the braking system or even to harm or kill somebody...

9th November 2007, 09:22	#20
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Recently my Mot tester has played about with my headlights which I felt were fine I asked him why and he said each MOT must run for at least 45 minutes i.e one MOT operator can't start another one on the computer system until 45 minutes have passed that is to give them an incentive to do a thorough test and not just bang through dozens of cars a day at £45 a go. So they kill time by correcting headlights if slightly out and double checking steering suspension etc He actually said he would never charge to adjust the lights unless some dismantling was required to avoid a fail because that would effectively be double charging the customer for the time thay have already paid for.