Long term Jobless. - Page 7

FredSpencer · 31st August 2013, 20:36

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Originally Posted by trebor

Dont forget we are all in this together, now tell me how the recession and austerity measures have affected those mentioned in the article below

And yes I know its the Daily Mail but nothing in the story is made up as far as i can see

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Club-2013.html

They're only young, they'll grow out of it ..... won't they?

Jay · 31st August 2013, 20:40

I used to be a social worker standing up for the rights of those with mental health problems. I now unfortunately find myself on the other side of the fence. The government has a lot to answer for for the way they handle those with mental health problems and benefits, shipping them out to private companies with a bonus if they can force them off benefits and on to the streets. Usually those who have problems defending themselves. Its act now and worry about the problem later with the governments attitude I cannot stand

The UK will end up a shanty town for most!!!

DaveyC · 31st August 2013, 22:02

The only things that surprises me in this thread is that the mods have not closed it because its littered with personal opinions.

We can't be political, religious or controversial........ or thread closed.....

FredSpencer · 31st August 2013, 22:37

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Originally Posted by DaveyC

The only things that surprises me in this thread is that the mods have not closed it because its littered with personal opinions.

We can't be political, religious or controversial........ or thread closed.....

Opinions, by their very nature, are personal.

I think the theme of the thread is about society, with nothing religious or controversial so far. It's inevitable that politics have a bearing on society so hardly surprising that politics in general are involved. As there's no compulsion to be involved I would have thought those who want a discussion of this nature could be left to get on with it.

coolcat · 31st August 2013, 23:01

I haven't joined in on this thread but what I have read has been interesting and informative.
All views have been put across eloquently without need to deride the other persons views.
Over all I cannot see any reason why this thread should be closed.
Open, reasoned debate on both sides of the fence and well done to everyone for how it has developed without ridicule or malice

Jay · 31st August 2013, 23:14

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Originally Posted by DaveyC

The only things that surprises me in this thread is that the mods have not closed it because its littered with personal opinions.

We can't be political, religious or controversial........ or thread closed.....

Your on the social forum. We don't mean any malice, just thinking through thoughts of what has been added. I agree with the last two posts and without prejudice to you. Add to the conversation rather than wanting it being blown away in the wind, ie the thread being closed

Dragrad · 1st September 2013, 03:40

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Originally Posted by DaveyC

The only things that surprises me in this thread is that the mods have not closed it because its littered with personal opinions.

We can't be political, religious or controversial........ or thread closed.....

Those are the rules we have to work with.... but discretion is always allowed

It is a judgment call on the Mods, generally after a discussion between Mods.

Where a healthy thread is on-going we allow it. But where it gets personal, for whatever reason, it well can be closed. Similarly for political/religious reasons we would prefer that these remain out of the Club's forums

We are, after all, a car oriented forum

Saying that, we are a fairly open Club in it's ability to provide a social forum to meet all needs, within reason....

Carry on gentlepersons (to remain PC)

DaveyC · 1st September 2013, 06:50

OK. I think my previous comment has come across the wrong way. I think its good to see a thread like this with reasoned debate and on what is a potentially volatile subject being left to run its course.

I have not been involved and have bee watching this with interest.

I work for a large authority managing the local taxation and benefits computer systems and could argue either way on this but I'm staying out as I leave work at the door these days.......

Sorry if my original post caused and confusion among members, as it was never intended that way.

Dave

coolcat · 1st September 2013, 06:55

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Originally Posted by DaveyC

OK. I think my previous comment has come across the wrong way. I think its good to see a thread like this with reasoned debate and on what is a potentially volatile subject being left to run its course.

I have not been involved and have bee watching this with interest.

I work for a large authority managing the local taxation and benefits computer systems and could argue either way on this but I'm staying out as I leave work at the door these days.......

Sorry if my original post caused and confusion among members, as it was never intended that way.

Dave

Hi Dave,

Don't think it was your post, more likely the other thread discussing a closed thread and why this one has been left to run

So long as people play nice with each other all is good it would seem

rasa · 1st September 2013, 07:55

the amount of benefits which falsely get claimed does not even come close to the amount which is dodged in tax evasion, mostly done by the well off,this is fact

31st August 2013, 20:40	#62
Jay This is my second home Small....Far away Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 9,473 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 2,060 Times in 1,194 Posts	I used to be a social worker standing up for the rights of those with mental health problems. I now unfortunately find myself on the other side of the fence. The government has a lot to answer for for the way they handle those with mental health problems and benefits, shipping them out to private companies with a bonus if they can force them off benefits and on to the streets. Usually those who have problems defending themselves. Its act now and worry about the problem later with the governments attitude I cannot stand The UK will end up a shanty town for most!!! __________________ ~Karma will help or hinder you. Therefore look positive for this day~

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DaveyC I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T Diesel Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Costa-Del-Dudley Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 213 Thanked 259 Times in 204 Posts	The only things that surprises me in this thread is that the mods have not closed it because its littered with personal opinions. We can't be political, religious or controversial........ or thread closed..... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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coolcat This is my second home Audi Q3 TDI S-Line Quattro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clacton On Sea/On the boat somewhere Posts: 51,146 Thanks: 9,890 Thanked 12,235 Times in 8,232 Posts	I haven't joined in on this thread but what I have read has been interesting and informative. All views have been put across eloquently without need to deride the other persons views. Over all I cannot see any reason why this thread should be closed. Open, reasoned debate on both sides of the fence and well done to everyone for how it has developed without ridicule or malice __________________ Jeff.

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DaveyC I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T Diesel Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Costa-Del-Dudley Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 213 Thanked 259 Times in 204 Posts	OK. I think my previous comment has come across the wrong way. I think its good to see a thread like this with reasoned debate and on what is a potentially volatile subject being left to run its course. I have not been involved and have bee watching this with interest. I work for a large authority managing the local taxation and benefits computer systems and could argue either way on this but I'm staying out as I leave work at the door these days....... Sorry if my original post caused and confusion among members, as it was never intended that way. Dave __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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rasa Gets stuck in bmw 335d e92se and 330d sport e90 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: newbiggin by the sea Posts: 844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	drop in ocean the amount of benefits which falsely get claimed does not even come close to the amount which is dodged in tax evasion, mostly done by the well off,this is fact __________________ golf nuts.