Why is the V8 so expensive?. - Page 15

Jules · 22nd July 2013, 20:37

You can buy a neglected dog of a V8 cheaply enough but it's going to cost you dear to restore it up to scratch.
Personally I wouldn't buy a neglected example as they usually cost more in the long run than buying a mint cared for one

Neglected cars very rarely feel as good as a preserved low mileage model in original condition no matter how much dosh you throw at them.

Villa Villan · 22nd July 2013, 21:06

Well that's kind of answered that question then chaps.

Cheers
Tony

MSS · 22nd July 2013, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Villa Villan

Well that's kind of answered that question then chaps.

Cheers
Tony

So, is the conclusion that they only appear expensive to people who are looking to spend less money than they are worth, don't appreciate quality/rarity or like little Skoda's?

Villa Villan · 22nd July 2013, 21:32

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Originally Posted by mss

So, is the conclusion that they only appear expensive to people who are looking to spend less money than they are worth, don't appreciate quality/rarity or like little Skoda's?

It was all as clear as mud fella.

Cheers
Tony

FredSpencer · 22nd July 2013, 21:36

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Originally Posted by mss

So, is the conclusion that they only appear expensive to people who are looking to spend less money than they are worth, don't appreciate quality/rarity or like little Skoda's?

The simple answer is that they are expensive cheap cars, better than others that aren't as good but worse than those that are better ..... if I've understood all the previous posts.

ksilver · 23rd July 2013, 06:13

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Out of interest, how much does a supercharger cost and what are the after-fitting performance figures like? Is the 0-60 time into the 5's?

The one and only Roush fitted car ( ZT-T ) was officially quoted (if my memory serves) by Nic (Rincewind) at 4.7sec 0-60 and 179 mph.

rovexCDTi · 23rd July 2013, 09:18

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Originally Posted by mss

So, is the conclusion that they only appear expensive to people who are looking to spend less money than they are worth, don't appreciate quality/rarity or like little Skoda's?

Again you twist and turn what i said to fit your world view. I didnt say the skoda was better, i said it didnt have the quality issues all our cars have, at least its seats dont fall apart. The ZT, NO ZT V8 or 1.8 has the build quality of the Germans. Thinking otherwise is delusional, its a realistic view, unpopular on here maybe, but a fact nonetheless.

I still maintain that the price is being inflated by owners holding on to them and placing their own value on them when selling, rather than the price really reflecting what they are worth to the general population in a free market. When an owner actually does genuinely want to sell one the price seems more reasonable and realistic.

paul d · 23rd July 2013, 10:04

Is it not the case that anything is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Do we all not put a value on things & if something is more than we're willing to pay we don't buy it.

Regards

Paul

rovexCDTi · 23rd July 2013, 10:40

To a degree, but what's happening here, and to some other cars as well is that the owners over value them, and try to sell them for silly money because another one sold for that at some point. I've seen 8k V8s that haven't sold after 6 months and multiple relistings. Clearly it's not worth it, but because another owner got lucky this owner won't sell for less.

These owner are keeping the prices high by not selling to the open market. Most people can't and don't try to sell a car for months and months without getting the hint.

GT Courier · 23rd July 2013, 10:47

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To a degree, but what's happening here, and to some other cars as well is that the owners over value them, and try to sell them for silly money because another one sold for that at some point. I've seen 8k V8s that haven't sold after 6 months and multiple relistings. Clearly it's not worth it, but because another owner got lucky this owner won't sell for less.

These owner are keeping the prices high by not selling to the open market. Most people can't and don't try to sell a car for months and months without getting the hint.

Surely that is basic supply and demand economics! Everyone has their price and if an offer is lower maybe it isn't worth it to them to accept that offer as they would rather keep the car! Surely this drives the sale of most things not just cars.

Your comment is a bit like saying everyone should just bung their car/house whatever on ebay no reserve and see what happens you are bound to sell anything if it is cheap enough. Nothing wrong with waiting for the value you want to leave you satisfied when you have lost a great unique car.

The numbers for sale speak volumes to me, there are/were 883 of them and there is always very few for sale even allowing for the low numbers.

I know of other cars that are rarer but are more readily available, this is why the V8 is higher priced than others 75/ZTs.

Build quality is not the issue of course, you don't buy a MGA and moan about build quality, it is the uniqueness and character that 'fund' the prices, after all half the fun is tinkering and getting things sorted.

Whatever the price of the V8, if you like it you wont go far wrong.

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rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	To a degree, but what's happening here, and to some other cars as well is that the owners over value them, and try to sell them for silly money because another one sold for that at some point. I've seen 8k V8s that haven't sold after 6 months and multiple relistings. Clearly it's not worth it, but because another owner got lucky this owner won't sell for less. These owner are keeping the prices high by not selling to the open market. Most people can't and don't try to sell a car for months and months without getting the hint. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]