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Old 16th November 2019, 13:20   #1
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Default Dead battery ..maybe

After my Successful jaunt to the Netherlands and back , not used the old bus much just a few run outs .


Found the battery a bit low last week so stuck it on Charge.


Left on my smart charger for about 5 days, all reported as fully charged.


Out to the car .. and Click click ... so back in doors and battery shown as pretty low again, now after about 6 hours on my halfords charger all showing all ok again , out to the car and Click ..


An 18 month old Yuasa 3000 , same as on my CDTi which is still going strong ..
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Old 16th November 2019, 13:44   #2
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After my Successful jaunt to the Netherlands and back , not used the old bus much just a few run outs .


Found the battery a bit low last week so stuck it on Charge.


Left on my smart charger for about 5 days, all reported as fully charged.


Out to the car .. and Click click ... so back in doors and battery shown as pretty low again, now after about 6 hours on my halfords charger all showing all ok again , out to the car and Click ..


An 18 month old Yuasa 3000 , same as on my CDTi which is still going strong ..
One click I have found was the battery (normally - but not always with flashing headlights). Click click was the starter solenoid.

When it first happened, it would be intermittent and then would eventually start.

Try it with a jump start, and if it still clicks that would confirm, at least it wasnt the battery, and almost certainly the starter. It could also be the starter cables. Disconnect the battery and loosen, clean and retighten.
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Old 16th November 2019, 13:48   #3
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Done all that ...


inc Swapping it with the CDTi Battery after running them both in parallel with jump leads, then disconnecting the CDTi and leaving the suspect one being charged. left charging for around 15 mins , and Not even a click , yet the voltage remains a stable 13-13.5 volts even off charge. .



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Done all that ...


inc Swapping it with the CDTi Battery after running them both in parallel with jump leads, then disconnecting the CDTi and leaving the suspect one being charged. left for around 15 mins , and Not even a click , yet the voltage remains a stable 13-13.5 volts ..



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Its the V8 . so a different starter

Anyway nowt wrong with either starter motor







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Its the V8 . so a different starter

Anyway nowt wrong with either starter motor
ah I didnt notice the V8 forum. The fact there is a click, i would still suggest the starter being at fault somehow, at least initially. Are all cables secure and clean making contact? Tap the starter motor like the good old days lol. (sticking from lack of use). Did you try jumping from the CDTi whilst it was running?
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Got a full set now .. the 1.8t which has sat for a week also a flat battery


But the lil Zr which also had a new batt last week has come to the rescue with jump leads and both the 1.8 and the V8 both fired up instantly .


So V8 starter is all ok .



Run both for a while and the 1.8 restarts ok and the V8 barely goes click .


its def the battery ! ..
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Old 16th November 2019, 16:56   #8
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Got a full set now .. the 1.8t which has sat for a week also a flat battery
It's time to invest in a couple of smart maintenance chargers Chris.

Did you say that the battery voltage when connected to your V8 is 13.0 - 13.5 volts when the ignition key is turned to 'start'?

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It's time to invest in a couple of smart maintenance chargers Chris.

Did you say that the battery voltage when connected to your V8 is 13.0 - 13.5 volts when the ignition key is turned to 'start'?

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Left on my smart charger for about 5 days, all reported as fully charged
It would appear that Chris has already done so

A drop test will weed out a tired battery, however as the battery is only 18 months old, I wold suggest it would be prudent to get it changed under warranty, as it would appear to be only holding a surface charge.

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Old 16th November 2019, 20:45   #10
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Batts been on a smart charger a Standard old style charger and paralleled on the Dizzle ,and Jumped started on the 260 , run for a reasonable time which should put a bit back ..... but still just a Click if i'm lucky

Going to get it tested at the Suppliers next week, Bri, fairly sure the Batt has a 3 year warranty ?



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A drop test will weed out a tired battery, however as the battery is only 18 months old, I wold suggest it would be prudent to get it changed under warranty, as it would appear to be only holding a surface charge.

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