Who is British?

[wraymond]

Originally Posted by Dragrad

What is the issue here ? We are British by birth, or by Commonwealth....



But in my mind, it matters not where you are from, by ethnic birth or otherwise,... if you are in our lands and accept the host country then you are British... Where lies the problem ?

The last 3 days I spent with a UK naturalised Mali, 2nd & 3rd+ generation Asians (Western & Eastern) & Welsh... Oh and a few English... We got on great together and a camerarderie was a natural process...

The end of it all is that WE are all Homo Sapiens (Human) and we can all live together, regardless of race, colour or creed... It is only a sick, misguided "individuals/group" who create an issue...


(I post this, not as a Moderator, but purely as an individual)

May I attempt a tune-up?

"But in my mind, it matters not where you are from, by ethnic birth or otherwise,... if you are in our lands and accept the host country then you are British... Where lies the problem ?"

I don't agree that (seemingly) ethnic origin should be absorbed and lost in becoming a label. We all benefit by the introduction of varied influences and they all should be encouraged. UK celebrates the diverse culture of four regions/countries already, each of those countries might rightly consider themselves Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English individually but British united in the world. The same should apply to other origins equally - nowt wrong with associating oneself with familial or ethnic custom. If integration is the aim, and it should be, assimilation should not mean absorption.

"The last 3 days I spent with a UK naturalised Mali, 2nd & 3rd+ generation Asians (Western & Eastern) & Welsh... Oh and a few English... We got on great together and a camerarderie was a natural process..."

That proves it!

[Rev Jules]

Originally Posted by wraymond

May I attempt a tune-up?

"But in my mind, it matters not where you are from, by ethnic birth or otherwise,... if you are in our lands and accept the host country then you are British... Where lies the problem ?"

I don't agree that (seemingly) ethnic origin should be absorbed and lost in becoming a label. We all benefit by the introduction of varied influences and they all should be encouraged. UK celebrates the diverse culture of four regions/countries already, each of those countries might rightly consider themselves Irish, Welsh, Scottish, English individually but British united in the world. The same should apply to other origins equally - nowt wrong with associating oneself with familial or ethnic custom. If integration is the aim, and it should be, assimilation should not mean absorption.

"The last 3 days I spent with a UK naturalised Mali, 2nd & 3rd+ generation Asians (Western & Eastern) & Welsh... Oh and a few English... We got on great together and a camerarderie was a natural process..."

That proves it!

I knew it the Borgs out of Star Trek are trying to assimilate, I can be one of several million,

Rev 1.

[HarryM1BYT]

I did a bit of tracing of family history back through the years and very interesting it was too. I wasn't able to trace my mothers (Yorkshire) family back that far, just to around 1870-ish.

My father and his predecessors were much, much easier. They were from the Norfolk/ Suffolk border and the entire family migrated up here to Leeds beginning in around 1850, to work on the massively expanding railways. They were traceable back to the 1500's. Prior to that, they were part of the Norman invasion or the migration post the invasion.

Originally Posted by barney bear

That would make you CELTIC as anybody here before 1707AD was just a bit of this bit of that, Britain wasn't formed until May 1 1707

I'm descended from Vikings btw

My understanding was that the Celts were pushed north of the border, to the west in Wales (Ireland?) and to the south west into Cornwall.

[jackatesme]

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

My understanding was that the Celts were pushed north of the border, to the west in Wales (Ireland?) and to the south west into Cornwall.

So what your saying is,we were put out to the reservations as the Red Indians were in USA. Where is Sitting Bull when you need him.

[Gate Keeper]

Originally Posted by Kennyeth

https://youtu.be/F3_MfDYVKlg
I am African by decent, where we all came from.
Ken.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Africans.html

This study Ken, suggests that borders people could be descended from Africans who patrolled Hadrians Wall 2,000 years ago

Originally Posted by jackatesme

I would like to add that opening post was done in jest, bored, no sport on tv so thought i would start up a discussion. BTW i am 2 parts Irish on my paternal side 1 part Cornwall and 1 part Herefordshire on my maternal side, so i am as much of a mongrel as everyone.

I am 2 parts Irish and part Welsh. I could apply for the Irish passport, but I don't think I would use it

[coolcat]

Born in Helensbrough, Scotland to English parents who's parents and their parents before them were also English.
Moved to Rosyth also in Scotland.
Moved to Plymouth, Devon when I was three,

Then moved to Tottenham, London when I was five, then Cheshunt, Hertfordshire followed by Ware and Hunsdon also in Hertfordshire.

Finally moved to Sunny Clacton Essex where I have been ever since .......its been a journey and I consider myself British, not English

[cengar]

Pure Cornish back as far as mid 1400`s relatives in most of the churchyards of west Cornwall

[KWIL]

Relatives by name or can you prove the line?

[FLYER]

Originally Posted by coolcat

Born in Helensbrough, Scotland to English parents who's parents and their parents before them were also English.
Moved to Rosyth also in Scotland.
Moved to Plymouth, Devon when I was three,

Then moved to Tottenham, London when I was five, then Cheshunt, Hertfordshire followed by Ware and Hunsdon also in Hertfordshire.

Finally moved to Sunny Clacton Essex where I have been ever since .......its been a journey and I consider myself British, not English

Your Scottish .

Land of your birth and formative years .

Originally Posted by cengar

Pure Cornish back as far as mid 1400`s relatives in most of the churchyards of west Cornwall

Pirates and smugglers .

[coolcat]

Originally Posted by FLYER

Your Scottish .

Land of your birth and formative years .

I will be in a fortnight's time

Have you decided where we're going Saturday night ?