Razen Brown- The Rarest Monogram Colour of all!!!!

[martin green]

RAZEN BROWN ROVER 45.





























THIS CAR IS PLATED AS CDX which is this colour



It is not copperleaf red, but a mixture which they used on this car and the R75 5th millionth edition off the line only these share it.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by martin green

mike


That colour is another name for firefrost (Xirallic.) its not CDX mate which is why this is so unusual.

CDX is copperleaf and so this looks nothing like that, but I about to get the pictures so lets have a look mate.

Martin,

CDX/Copperleaf is the colour of R40 and was available from launch in 1998. Firefrost was a later MGR introduced red first seen some time before Xirallic came about - the two have no connection.

hth

[martin green]

Mike do you have the codes for firefrost and Xcrillic paints?. The reason I ask is that SMG rover sold a Firefrost 08 plater to Andy Messer and was adveristed xcrillic paintwork?.



firefrost> CEV

I have just checked with EMS and they have confirmed Xcrillic and firefrost are the same colours mate?

Copperleaf> CDX

Razen> CDX but shares no paint colour with Firefrost, Xcrillic or copperleaf, hence the RARE colour


Please ring this paint office and confirm it yourself mate 01634 388999

xcrillic and firefrost are the same names. for the same paints.Unless these don't know either mate.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by moonstoneboy

5 millionth Rover - based on what?

Here you go Paul,

ROVER PRODUCTION TOTAL – SINCE 1904 (as of 1 July 2004)
Rover cars Produced Total
CityRover 2003- 5,500
Streetwise, by Rover 2003- 10,500
Commerce CDV 2003- 500
Rover 45 (Oyster) 2000- 145,000
Rover 25 (Jewel) 1999- 235,000
Rover 75 (R40) 1998- 190,000
Rover 200 (R3) 1995-1999 470,449
Rover 400 (HHR) 1995-2000 469,781
Rover 100 1994-1997 170,262
Rover 600 (Synchro) 1993-1999 270,988
Rover 800 (R17) 1991-1998 128,052
Rover Metro (R6) 1990-1994 389,224
Rover 400 inc. Tourer (R8, Tex ) 1990-1998 245,630
Rover 200 inc. Cabriolet/Coupe (R8) 1989-1998 708,003
Rover 800 (XX) 1986-1991 201,889
Rover 200 (SD3) 1984-1989 418,367
Rover 2000-3500 (SD1) 1976-1986 303,345
Rover 2000-3500 (P6) 1963-1977 333,494
Rover 3.5litre (P5) 1967-1973 20,600
Rover 3litre (P5) 1959-1967 49,892
Rover 60-110 (P4) 1950-1964 130,342
Rover 60-75 (P3) 1948-1949 9,100
Rover 20 / Speed 20 (P2) 1937-1940 641
Rover 16 (P2) 1937-1948 9,259
Rover 14 (P2) 1937-1948 11,303
Rover 12 (P2) 1937-1948 16,627
Rover 10 (P2) 1937-1948 9,903
Rover 14 (P1) 1934-1936 9,464
Rover 12 (P1) 1934-1936 5,775
Rover 10 (P1) 1934-1936 5,702
Rover Speed Pilot / Speed 14 1933-1936 584
Rover Speed Meteor / Speed 20 1932-1935 110
Rover 12hp & 14hp Pilot 1932-1933 4,396
Rover Meteor / Light 20 1930-1933 1,718
Rover Light 6 1930 1,857
Rover 2Litre 1928-1934 8,048
Rover 10/25 / 10 Special 1927-1933 24,687
Rover 16/50 1926-1928 1,364
Rover 14/45 1925-1927 2,778
Rover 9/20 1924-1927 13,000
Rover 8hp twin 1920-1925 17,700
Rover 18hp 1912-1913 150
Rover 12hp (Clegg) 1912-1924 13,400
Rover 12hp (Knight) 1911-1912 200
Rover 8hp (Knight) 1911-1912 150
Rover 15hp 1909-1911 450
Rover 12hp (2 cyl) 1908-1910 400
Rover 20hp 1906-1910 200
Rover 12hp (4 cyl) 1906 100
Rover 6hp 1905-1912 2,296
Rover 8hp 1904-1912 2,200
Rover cars production total 1904-2004 5,070,380

hth

Mike

[richardwjackson]

Originally Posted by James.uk

Dunno about you others but I was never a fan of brown cars no matter who made them, the early brown coloured cars were all called flyin - Sh--e when I was a lad.

James, my thoughts exactly. It might be rare but its b****y awful imho.

[martin green]

I think it looks fantastic and very closen to another majestic colour dorchester red.

[Mike]

Martin,

Firefrost Red was introduced by MG Rover. The last 75 built was Firefrost and looks like this:



The 5 millionth Rover was in Xirallic Aubergine - MG Rover built the car and they said in their press announcement:

Thursday, July 10, 2003 – build of the five-millionth Rover, a 75 Saloon, in special Xirallic® Aubergine paintwork (VIN SARRJZLLM4D298618), was celebrated with a visit by The Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex.

Firefrost and Xirallic are different colours as the pctiures show. I'm sure EMS and Wilcox mean well but I have to believe what the manufacturer stated at the time.

Razen Brown was never an MGR Colour, as I'm sure EMS will confirm.

cheers

Mike

[martin green]

Strange one this....I have spoken to SMG Rover, AE Wilcox, EMS, and now Lichfield rover all these dealerships are saying the same Firefrost/Xrcillic are the same paints?.

I have always known them as this also? If this is the case, Surely for just two cars on this Razen brown colour would not be in the colour brochure as it was intended for specials only?

Also if CDX is copperleaf which is the door code number on the 5th million Rover, why is it not copperleaf then>?

It is clearly matching the Rover 45 car?. I wonder does anyone have any proof if Razen brown,Xcrillic colours ever offered to the Rover 45?

This is a great story mike. Do you have any more answers mate.

[FredSpencer]

Xirallic® looks to me like it might just refer to the type of paint finish, rather than the colour itself. Firefrost is particularly sparkly I believe and they probably wanted this one to sparkle too. As to the paint code on the car, they probably didn't think to give it one so just stuck CDX on as being about the nearest colour.

[Dave***t]

Originally Posted by martin green

Strange one this....I have spoken to SMG Rover, AE Wilcox, EMS, and now Lichfield rover all these dealerships are saying the same Firefrost/Xrcillic are the same paints?.

Xirallic is a kind of paint like metallic, chromatic etc. It's not a colour.

So it's possible that firefrost is a xirallic paint in the same way that anthracite is a metallic paint (I don't know, I've never seen firefrost up close).

But xirallic cannot be the same as firefrost any more than a metallic finish can be the same as BRG.