Razen Brown- The Rarest Monogram Colour of all!!!! - Page 4

MGStephen · 23rd December 2009, 08:42

Id love to have that 45!

Another brown i reaaly like is Clove brown Painted on an Austin Montego Mayfair.

moonstoneboy · 23rd December 2009, 09:38

5 millionth Rover - based on what?

Rover cars from the old independent Rover Co - there is uncertainty about the number of P6s built let alone any of the others.

Can't be all the companies that eventually ended up within the Rover bag, i.e. Austin, Morris etc.

Paul

martin green · 23rd December 2009, 09:43

I THINK IT WAS ROVERS BADGES AS ROVERS, Not Austins or Morris cars etc etc...

In fact they were knocking cars out for 101 years so this is easily done.

majedm75 · 23rd December 2009, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duotone

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Dave T

That's Juergen (head from behind) and Gert near the driver's door :lol:

Mike · 23rd December 2009, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by moonstoneboy

5 millionth Rover - based on what?

Rover cars from the old independent Rover Co - there is uncertainty about the number of P6s built let alone any of the others.

Can't be all the companies that eventually ended up within the Rover bag, i.e. Austin, Morris etc.

Paul

Based on the number of Rover cars built.

iirc the figures are all on line. http://www.aronline.co.uk/ is a good starting point if you want to track down the detail.

Mike · 23rd December 2009, 11:10

Hi Martin

Sorry but I do need to disagree; Razen Brown was not the colour name given by MGR; from the start the colour was named Xirallic. The original 5 Millionth Rover celebration brochure produced by the company when the car was built names the paint as Xirallic made by Du Pont. The same information is set out in all the 5 Millionth news releases and pictures.

Sorry to seem picky but it is important that the club site stays as accurate as possible about the car's history as people will use these forums for all sorts of research.

As you say AE Wilcox are long standing Rover experts so I've no idea why they got this one so wrong.

Does anyone know if Razen is an English word and what it means?

Cheers

Mike

martin green · 23rd December 2009, 11:19

mike

That colour is another name for firefrost (Xirallic.) its not CDX mate which is why this is so unusual.

CDX is copperleaf and so this looks nothing like that, but I about to get the pictures so lets have a look mate.

martin green · 23rd December 2009, 11:23

Tim at Wilcoxs has seen the R75 in this Razen brown and its confirmed by Tim this is the same colour as the R45.

The pictures will be on here shortly.

MG.

I have around 12 pictures from Timbo.

James.uk · 23rd December 2009, 11:28

Dunno about you others but I was never a fan of brown cars no matter who made them, the early brown coloured cars were all called flyin - Sh--e when I was a lad..

.

I did like the Rover 3.5 v8 colour called harvest gold I think, that looked nice.. But brown?

yukk..

I like the spec on the car though, so I may offer to do a swap, even if I do have to have it resprayed in Firefrost or something.

.

pondweed · 23rd December 2009, 11:33

wouldnt it be better to ask Wilcox chap to give the evidence for Raisin (sic) Brown - otherwise it's just an old wives tale. As Mike says, the MGR evidence is the only thing to go by.

Where is the evidence for Firefrost being called Xirallic?

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23rd December 2009, 11:10	#36
Mike This is my second home Rover 75 V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,448 Thanks: 0 Thanked 206 Times in 32 Posts	Hi Martin Sorry but I do need to disagree; Razen Brown was not the colour name given by MGR; from the start the colour was named Xirallic. The original 5 Millionth Rover celebration brochure produced by the company when the car was built names the paint as Xirallic made by Du Pont. The same information is set out in all the 5 Millionth news releases and pictures. Sorry to seem picky but it is important that the club site stays as accurate as possible about the car's history as people will use these forums for all sorts of research. As you say AE Wilcox are long standing Rover experts so I've no idea why they got this one so wrong. Does anyone know if Razen is an English word and what it means? Cheers Mike __________________ Mike [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

23rd December 2009, 09:43	#33
martin green Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 TOURER CDT 2002 & 2000 PRIMROSE YELLOW 75 SE Join Date: May 2007 Location: ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I THINK IT WAS ROVERS BADGES AS ROVERS, Not Austins or Morris cars etc etc... In fact they were knocking cars out for 101 years so this is easily done.

23rd December 2009, 11:19	#37
martin green Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 TOURER CDT 2002 & 2000 PRIMROSE YELLOW 75 SE Join Date: May 2007 Location: ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	mike That colour is another name for firefrost (Xirallic.) its not CDX mate which is why this is so unusual. CDX is copperleaf and so this looks nothing like that, but I about to get the pictures so lets have a look mate.

23rd December 2009, 11:23	#38
martin green Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 TOURER CDT 2002 & 2000 PRIMROSE YELLOW 75 SE Join Date: May 2007 Location: ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tim at Wilcoxs has seen the R75 in this Razen brown and its confirmed by Tim this is the same colour as the R45. The pictures will be on here shortly. MG. I have around 12 pictures from Timbo.

23rd December 2009, 11:28	#39
James.uk Passed Away 2002 Pale Blue. Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur auto. 170K miles Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near the M67. Posts: 14,509 Thanks: 199 Thanked 585 Times in 397 Posts	Dunno about you others but I was never a fan of brown cars no matter who made them, the early brown coloured cars were all called flyin - Sh--e when I was a lad.. . I did like the Rover 3.5 v8 colour called harvest gold I think, that looked nice.. But brown? yukk.. I like the spec on the car though, so I may offer to do a swap, even if I do have to have it resprayed in Firefrost or something. .

23rd December 2009, 11:33	#40
pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	wouldnt it be better to ask Wilcox chap to give the evidence for Raisin (sic) Brown - otherwise it's just an old wives tale. As Mike says, the MGR evidence is the only thing to go by. Where is the evidence for Firefrost being called Xirallic?