Re engineing cars

Rover 75 Tourer · 9th March 2019, 11:16

As in the past commercial vechicles have been re engined to meet the emmision standards of the day. Has anyone explored the possibilities of putting a modern either petrol or diesel motor into the 75 or ZT's. Only a thought at the moment but as the number of emmision zones increase and so we can continue to use these cars as every day use ones maybe we should consider the options. I can imagine DVLA might throw a spanner in the works about having to re certify emmissions in any modified cars. Worth a try?

Go on Brian you Know it makes sense.

Bogbrush82 · 9th March 2019, 11:25

M47R is probably more environmentally friendly that modern derivatives anyway.

No DPF to clog up for a start.

victorgte · 9th March 2019, 15:19

Look at the thread by MG John. He’s put a 1.8 turbo engine into his ZT-T sourced from an MG6. I would imagine it’s got lower emissions.

BigRuss · 9th March 2019, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogbrush82

M47R is probably more environmentally friendly that modern derivatives anyway.

No DPF to clog up for a start.

Far from it, the best I could get from an M47R was 0.40 on the emission test
My Volvo S60 2.5 diesel with a DPF on its last test was 0.01 it does far more to the gallon too despite being half a litre bigger.
There's nothing wrong with cars with DPF's if the car is used so that it gets warm enough, the only problems usually arise because they've been used on short journeys or crawling along in rush hour traffic.

The amount of soot in the DPF on my S60 is at the same level as when I bought the car 3 years and 30,000 miles ago

In answer to the op's question about changing to a newer type of engine is that it would be extremely difficult to do that not so much from a mechanical point of view ( there's probably a few engines that would fit) but it's the integration of the engine management system into the electronics that would be extremely difficult to achieve.

Russ

minimutly · 9th March 2019, 15:33

I'd rather put an older engine in, for power and reliability - eg a T series turbo in MGZT, on lpg of course....
I have such a project, bit dormant, will I finish it - I dunno. Is it worth the bother?

Bogbrush82 · 9th March 2019, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRuss

Far from it, the best I could get from an M47R was 0.40 on the emission test
My Volvo S60 2.5 diesel with a DPF on its last test was 0.01 it does far more

Either that's high or mine's unusually low, since my last emissions test result was 0.02.

SideValve · 9th March 2019, 20:35

Or maybe go electric...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjOY4JBmy4
Not a 75 but shows what can be done.

trikey · 9th March 2019, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideValve

Not a 75 but shows what can be done.

I'm sure someone in the eastern bloc converted a 75 to electric..

Dorset Bob · 9th March 2019, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by trikey

I'm sure someone in the eastern bloc converted a 75 to electric..

Yes there was

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...90&postcount=1

trikey · 9th March 2019, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorset Bob

Yes there was

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...90&postcount=1

Thanks, I knew I had seen it before

9th March 2019, 11:16	#1
Rover 75 Tourer Avid contributor Rover 75 tourers(4)400turs(3 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Largs Posts: 216 Thanks: 3 Thanked 67 Times in 56 Posts	Re engineing cars As in the past commercial vechicles have been re engined to meet the emmision standards of the day. Has anyone explored the possibilities of putting a modern either petrol or diesel motor into the 75 or ZT's. Only a thought at the moment but as the number of emmision zones increase and so we can continue to use these cars as every day use ones maybe we should consider the options. I can imagine DVLA might throw a spanner in the works about having to re certify emmissions in any modified cars. Worth a try? Go on Brian you Know it makes sense.

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Bogbrush82 I really should get out more....... BMW X3 2.0D Join Date: May 2017 Location: Tipton Posts: 2,383 Thanks: 51 Thanked 765 Times in 421 Posts	M47R is probably more environmentally friendly that modern derivatives anyway. No DPF to clog up for a start. __________________ Current car: BMW x3 2.0d (The one with the M47 engine!) Rolled off the line on December 14th, 2004.

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victorgte I really should get out more....... MGTF, MGZT, Range Rover Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,802 Thanks: 395 Thanked 633 Times in 446 Posts	Look at the thread by MG John. He’s put a 1.8 turbo engine into his ZT-T sourced from an MG6. I would imagine it’s got lower emissions. __________________ MG TF 135, MG ZT, Range Rover P38

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SideValve Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Oxford Posts: 767 Thanks: 141 Thanked 204 Times in 141 Posts	Or maybe go electric... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjOY4JBmy4 Not a 75 but shows what can be done. __________________ The Story So Far: Austin A35, Morris Oxford, Triumph Herald, Mini 850, Mini 1000, Austin Allegro, MG Midget, MGB GT, Rover SD1 2600, Austin Maxi, Rover 200, Rover 825, Rover 800, Bedford TK, Range Rover 3.9 efi, Rover 400, Rover 100, MGF, Rover 25, Rover 75 1.8, Rover 75 Connoisseur SE 2.0 V6, MGF 1.8i, Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.0 V6 Auto, Morris Eight Series E, Morris Minor 1275.

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9th March 2019, 15:33	#5
minimutly Posted a thing or two mg zt Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: cardigan Posts: 1,087 Thanks: 28 Thanked 187 Times in 158 Posts	I'd rather put an older engine in, for power and reliability - eg a T series turbo in MGZT, on lpg of course.... I have such a project, bit dormant, will I finish it - I dunno. Is it worth the bother?