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Not knowing much about LPG I think I would go to a company that has at least done one before if I could. How much have they quoted is it a fixed price or just an estimate depending on what they end up having to do? |
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26th June 2007, 09:47 | #13 |
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there is currently an X power grey mark 1 with an LPG conversion for sale on pistonheads, in south Lancashire, near me.
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Do these engines like LPG conversions? A friend of mine runs a LandRover specialists that deal in servicing and repairing old to new Land Rovers/RRs etc.. He said that LPG ruins engines. Maybe this is just the LR/RR V8s though?
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GazzaB. You have to use the Correct mix of Petrol and Gas to stop things getting to Dry.
If run without Petrol then engine would be unlubricated so then yes the Engine would be Damaged. Our LPG experts will tell you more when they see thread. |
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It's a huge overstatement to say that LPG ruins engines. There are many urban myths, mostly spread by people who have had a bad experience with poor installations, and who do not understand the fuel. Like any car, LPG fuelled ones can have problems. The only known major issues are valve seat recession caused by lack of upper cylinder lubrication, and issues connected to inadequate cooling, as LPG fuelled engines run hotter than petrol. An upper cylinder lube system (e.g. Moreys) will solve the lube problem, and so will running the car on petrol from time to time. Most cars don't have a problem with cooling, but if a car had a history of radiator/cooling problems I'd fix that first. There are millions of cars running on LPG worldwide, and increasing numbers on LPG ONLY! So, clearly it does not ruin engines. In some countries (Australia is a good example) most taxis run on LPG and there are many that have covered over 400,000 kilometres without major mechanical work. I personally know of a Toyota van locally that has travelled over a million kilometres and had the head off only twice. No too bad I think!
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current train of thought is to go for the 260, and see how it goes on petrol.
If Im finding the cost of fuel a pain, Ill go down the LPG route. the cost, servicing, taxing, MOTing and fixing of a second car can go into the 260 fuel tank, plus it means Ive no excuse not to use the 260 every day. Ive just got a few things to sort out, and can start looking |
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I used my 260 purely for pleasure or expensed business trips never commuting as I don't think I could justify to myself the fuel costs to do the daily grind
Do consider the frequency of refuelling in daily use though 250 miles on the tank would be typical before needing a fill up, i.e half what the CDT typically does |
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why not tune your diesel?
I still get 43mpg of of my machine even with 171BHP/302lbft torque
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I missed this thread while I was on holiday.
The garage/service fraternity don't generally understand anything about LPG therefore they are frightened of it and so hate it and/or blame it for every fault that ever occurs, including tail lamp failure (I am not joking!). Also there is something about the British psyche that is forever doom and gloom and resistant to change. (We see that more than 50% of the customers locally filling up at the tank are either Polish or Lithuanian) I have run 190,000 miles on LPG on my old Sterling; the engine has never been touched apart from oil changes and spark plugs. A commom misunderstanding is that LPG runs hotter than petrol - it cannot as it has a lower calorific value. However the spark plugs will appear to run hotter as LPG is a good insulator and the ignition system has to work harder. It is true that LPG is dry and if the valves/seats are made of lard or chocolate such as used in the Ford Focus, some Honda and Subaru, then there will be valve seat recession a bit earlier than on petrol. With these engines we fit an Australian oiling system which seems to keep the owners happy. I won't run on any other fuel until there is a viable alternative, I've saved many thousands of pounds over the years. But I am in a position to ensure that my conversion is good and that it s set up correctly. |
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