differences in spec pre to post facelift?

pondweed · 17th October 2008, 15:27

just looked on the russian parts site to look at gearknob differences, and noticed that the selector mechanism seems to be quite difference pre and post facelift. How massive are the differences in real life, anyone who works on pulling apart these things?!

Also noticed on the russian site that the post chassis number 307xxx transition manual gearknobs for the later gearstick are/were available in walnut as well as light and dark oak (UKJ000390ANV) Anyone EVER seen one in anything other than Light oak?

JohnDotCom · 17th October 2008, 15:34

Seen some cars with Dark Oak (almost Black) but not to many.

T-Cut · 17th October 2008, 15:53

I think the difference in the manual gear knobs amounts to the shape of the holes. The facelift shaft has a flat ground along one side, so it's 'D' shaped in section. The knobs have a correspondingly shaped bore. The circular bore knobs fit the D-shaped shafts, but not the other way around (unless you drill them out to fit).

TC

pondweed · 17th October 2008, 16:01

thats useful - but I was more getting at the hardware underneath - the pics look very different for the actual shifting mechanisms.

Mike · 17th October 2008, 16:13

The gear shift mechanisms are (very) different making it a pain if you own a pre-facelift and need to replace the shift mechanism as the originals are no longer available.

Selector Mechanism-External - To vin 4D307060

UKD000270 Mechanism assembly-gearchange manual transmission - Gear change mechanism installation

Selector Mechanism-External - From vin 4D307061

UKD000200 Mechanism assembly-gearchange manual transmission

pondweed · 17th October 2008, 21:01

aaah. thats what I came to realise.

I'm one of those with the underpinnings of the new in the pre-facelift (321,000ish chassis), so I suppose thats one good thing. The change and the feel of the clutch are lighter though than the earlier cars, I'm finding.

I wonder why they redeveloped it - perhaps its used on other models and a cheaper system, as per a lot of the other changes?

Mike · 17th October 2008, 21:15

my pleasure

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pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	differences in spec pre to post facelift? just looked on the russian parts site to look at gearknob differences, and noticed that the selector mechanism seems to be quite difference pre and post facelift. How massive are the differences in real life, anyone who works on pulling apart these things?! Also noticed on the russian site that the post chassis number 307xxx transition manual gearknobs for the later gearstick are/were available in walnut as well as light and dark oak (UKJ000390ANV) Anyone EVER seen one in anything other than Light oak? Last edited by pondweed; 17th October 2008 at 15:32..

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Mike This is my second home Rover 75 V8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,448 Thanks: 0 Thanked 206 Times in 32 Posts	The gear shift mechanisms are (very) different making it a pain if you own a pre-facelift and need to replace the shift mechanism as the originals are no longer available. Selector Mechanism-External - To vin 4D307060 UKD000270 Mechanism assembly-gearchange manual transmission - Gear change mechanism installation *Selector Mechanism-External - From vin 4D307061* UKD000200 Mechanism assembly-gearchange manual transmission __________________ Mike [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Seen some cars with Dark Oak (almost Black) but not to many.

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T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	I think the difference in the manual gear knobs amounts to the shape of the holes. The facelift shaft has a flat ground along one side, so it's 'D' shaped in section. The knobs have a correspondingly shaped bore. The circular bore knobs fit the D-shaped shafts, but not the other way around (unless you drill them out to fit). TC

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pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thats useful - but I was more getting at the hardware underneath - the pics look very different for the actual shifting mechanisms.

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pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	aaah. thats what I came to realise. I'm one of those with the underpinnings of the new in the pre-facelift (321,000ish chassis), so I suppose thats one good thing. The change and the feel of the clutch are lighter though than the earlier cars, I'm finding. I wonder why they redeveloped it - perhaps its used on other models and a cheaper system, as per a lot of the other changes?