Flight MH370...... - Page 2

doopydug · 11th March 2014, 09:57

Do planes really not have a tracker / black box beacon fitted to all of them yet ?

MangoMan · 11th March 2014, 10:02

Yes they do, a Transponder, but it needs power to work.....

VVC-Geeza · 11th March 2014, 10:24

An aviation expert said in a news interview that there is a sonar beacon attached to the black boxes which starts to send a signal for around a month as soon as it comes into contact with sea water.
I believe that is the way the debris from the Air France aircraft was found.

Borg Warner · 11th March 2014, 10:50

There was a very interesting programme last week on the Air France loss. Lots of contributory factors were explained very well. The wreckage was found from that loss, hopefully the same will happen with this.

It would appear, at this point, that terrorism isn't a factor. The investigation will have to run its course and come to a logical conclusion to provide the answers the families will need.

BW

suffolk boy · 11th March 2014, 10:56

i am sure they will find in the end.they are just looking in the wrong place.it would seem to me that perhaps their radar may not be that accurate or no one was watching it at the time.as after pan am 103 blew up several large blips where noted on the screen.

suzublu · 11th March 2014, 11:38

So, one week earlier, Putin phones his mates in China, "Excuse me comrades, can you do me a favour & divert the press for a while, got a little something on in Crimea"

Me, a conspiracy theorist

never

Foreign nationals, missed, or not on the plane, stolen European passports, etc

Just my opinion.

suffolk boy · 11th March 2014, 11:41

miltary radar has tracked it two hundred miles off where it should have been heading back along the coast

TriumphStag · 11th March 2014, 11:56

Surely though even of it had blown up, something should have show on the radar. There would have been large bits falling, it surely would not have vaporized in mid air.

WillyHeckaslike · 11th March 2014, 12:04

The Wiki suggests that they are looking in the wrong place. A Malaysia Airlines spokesperson apparently said that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 01:30, and stated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 02:40, which is long enough for the plane to have been flying across Vietnam.

When radar contact with the aircraft was lost it was estimated to be carrying enough fuel for an additional 7.5 hours of flying time.

MangoMan · 11th March 2014, 12:22

If it had carried on flying until 02:40hrs as you say and had stayed on the same track of 025 Degrees then it would have been by then just South West of Ho Chi Min City, near Can Tho...

Pic shows position after just over 1 hour and just before it went off radar....

11th March 2014, 10:02	#12
MangoMan This is my second home Looking.... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: England Posts: 10,911 Thanks: 862 Thanked 1,111 Times in 868 Posts	Yes they do, a Transponder, but it needs power to work..... __________________ *Regards, Bill - (MangoMan).* (Member 00854) http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original Last edited by MangoMan; 11th March 2014 at 10:05..

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suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	i am sure they will find in the end.they are just looking in the wrong place.it would seem to me that perhaps their radar may not be that accurate or no one was watching it at the time.as after pan am 103 blew up several large blips where noted on the screen. __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

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suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	miltary radar has tracked it two hundred miles off where it should have been heading back along the coast __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

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MangoMan This is my second home Looking.... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: England Posts: 10,911 Thanks: 862 Thanked 1,111 Times in 868 Posts	If it had carried on flying until 02:40hrs as you say and had stayed on the same track of 025 Degrees then it would have been by then just South West of Ho Chi Min City, near Can Tho... Pic shows position after just over 1 hour and just before it went off radar.... __________________ *Regards, Bill - (MangoMan).* (Member 00854) http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original Last edited by MangoMan; 11th March 2014 at 12:26..

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doopydug Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Fife Posts: 1,595 Thanks: 88 Thanked 269 Times in 235 Posts	Do planes really not have a tracker / black box beacon fitted to all of them yet ?

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Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	There was a very interesting programme last week on the Air France loss. Lots of contributory factors were explained very well. The wreckage was found from that loss, hopefully the same will happen with this. It would appear, at this point, that terrorism isn't a factor. The investigation will have to run its course and come to a logical conclusion to provide the answers the families will need. BW

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suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,921 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	So, one week earlier, Putin phones his mates in China, "Excuse me comrades, can you do me a favour & divert the press for a while, got a little something on in Crimea" Me, a conspiracy theorist never Foreign nationals, missed, or not on the plane, stolen European passports, etc Just my opinion.

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TriumphStag Gets stuck in MK1 Connie SE 2.0CDTi Tourer Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crawley Posts: 635 Thanks: 39 Thanked 79 Times in 52 Posts	Surely though even of it had blown up, something should have show on the radar. There would have been large bits falling, it surely would not have vaporized in mid air.

11th March 2014, 12:04	#19
WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,522 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	The Wiki suggests that they are looking in the wrong place. A Malaysia Airlines spokesperson apparently said that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 01:30, and stated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 02:40, which is long enough for the plane to have been flying across Vietnam. When radar contact with the aircraft was lost it was estimated to be carrying enough fuel for an additional 7.5 hours of flying time.