Shoreham Air Show Crash

Darcydog · 21st March 2018, 19:32

Looks like the Pilot of the Hunter that crashed is to be charged with Eleven counts of Manslaughter.

planenut · 21st March 2018, 21:17

No surprise in that. The families and friends will go through a horrible time.

Astraeus · 21st March 2018, 21:26

A lot of people are paying a very high price for a moments stupidity. Including him. It really was horrific.

Chris

Jim Jamieson · 21st March 2018, 21:47

It’s all rather sad, we all like to see and experience the thrill of air shows but as in this case something went wrong.

Hind sight is a great thing but perhaps these type of shows should have had tighter controls on flight paths etc. without taking away the visual element.

Today’s action won’t bring the lives of the eleven souls lost that day.

SCP440 · 22nd March 2018, 05:10

I suspect that pilot had done the same manoeuvre many times before with no problems. One of the reasons we go to air shows is to see these aircraft do these aerobatics.

It is very sad these people lost there life and nothing will ever bring them back. The saddest part the people who got killed had nothing to do with the airshow.

Inevitably if you push and old machine close to its limits something is going to go wrong.

What should happen in the future? should all old military aircraft be grounded or strictly limited to what they can do? If this was the case what would be the point of keeping them flying? They might as well go in a museum and collect cobwebs.

2500 people every year get killed on the roads in the UK, do we see regulation to stop us using them? No we treat that as acceptable losses, very sad and I have lost friends in car accidents so I know how devastating it can be. In the last 70 odd years since the end of the war there has been several accident involving ex military aircraft at shows, I don't know the numbers but I suspect the total deaths is probably less than a months deaths on the roads.

In my view these aircraft should be aloud to carry on doing these manoeuvres but only over areas where if the inevitable is going to happen the aircraft crashes away from innocent onlookers.

If you have ever seen a Vulcan, Lightning or Harrier in action you will know what I mean.

KWIL · 22nd March 2018, 08:44

In this case the the "inevitable" happened because apparently the pilot chose an unsafe move being too low and slow to complete, higher and faster it might not have been a problem.

Let's await the final outcome before grounding aircraft just because they are "old".

planenut · 22nd March 2018, 08:50

We will all have our opinions, which I certainly have as of day one, and we will get loads of opinionated remarks, on here and elsewhere, including the press, until the final legally binding outcome.

mileshawk56 · 22nd March 2018, 19:46

An awful happening for the all those involved, what ever action taken against the pilot wont give life to the dead or mend the injured so to me its pointless. A moment of error or malfunction, no malign or evil act on his part. We drive tons of metal at lethal speeds and can make an error of a similar nature. Chris S.

21st March 2018, 19:32	#1
Darcydog This is my second home Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,428 Thanks: 3,123 Thanked 3,170 Times in 2,096 Posts	Shoreham Air Show Crash Looks like the Pilot of the Hunter that crashed is to be charged with Eleven counts of Manslaughter.

21st March 2018, 21:26	#3
Astraeus Regional Secretary North Scotland MG ZS Exclusive 1.0T Auto 2022 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tayport Posts: 5,754 Thanks: 1,676 Thanked 1,855 Times in 1,058 Posts	Lot A lot of people are paying a very high price for a moments stupidity. Including him. It really was horrific. Chris

21st March 2018, 21:17	#2
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,954 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	No surprise in that. The families and friends will go through a horrible time.

21st March 2018, 21:47	#4
Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	It’s all rather sad, we all like to see and experience the thrill of air shows but as in this case something went wrong. Hind sight is a great thing but perhaps these type of shows should have had tighter controls on flight paths etc. without taking away the visual element. Today’s action won’t bring the lives of the eleven souls lost that day.

22nd March 2018, 05:10	#5
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	I suspect that pilot had done the same manoeuvre many times before with no problems. One of the reasons we go to air shows is to see these aircraft do these aerobatics. It is very sad these people lost there life and nothing will ever bring them back. The saddest part the people who got killed had nothing to do with the airshow. Inevitably if you push and old machine close to its limits something is going to go wrong. What should happen in the future? should all old military aircraft be grounded or strictly limited to what they can do? If this was the case what would be the point of keeping them flying? They might as well go in a museum and collect cobwebs. 2500 people every year get killed on the roads in the UK, do we see regulation to stop us using them? No we treat that as acceptable losses, very sad and I have lost friends in car accidents so I know how devastating it can be. In the last 70 odd years since the end of the war there has been several accident involving ex military aircraft at shows, I don't know the numbers but I suspect the total deaths is probably less than a months deaths on the roads. In my view these aircraft should be aloud to carry on doing these manoeuvres but only over areas where if the inevitable is going to happen the aircraft crashes away from innocent onlookers. If you have ever seen a Vulcan, Lightning or Harrier in action you will know what I mean.

22nd March 2018, 08:44	#6
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	In this case the the "inevitable" happened because apparently the pilot chose an unsafe move being too low and slow to complete, higher and faster it might not have been a problem. Let's await the final outcome before grounding aircraft just because they are "old".

22nd March 2018, 08:50	#7
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,954 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	We will all have our opinions, which I certainly have as of day one, and we will get loads of opinionated remarks, on here and elsewhere, including the press, until the final legally binding outcome.

22nd March 2018, 19:46	#8
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	An awful happening for the all those involved, what ever action taken against the pilot wont give life to the dead or mend the injured so to me its pointless. A moment of error or malfunction, no malign or evil act on his part. We drive tons of metal at lethal speeds and can make an error of a similar nature. Chris S.