ZT 160+ or 190+

[willcope]

Hi all,going to look at a 2.5 160+ tomorrow with 98000 mile on the clock on a 51 plate in black only prob is dont think belts have been done but seller says that most owners dont replace cam belts as they dont fail!? also no service history.I've also got to look at a 2.5 190+ with some service history full sat nav and tv with 67000 mile on clock but again not sure about cam belts,any idea which one would be the SAFER bet? i know nobody has a crystal ball but is there ant difference on the two engines? is a 190 just a 160 remapped?
Many thanks

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by willcope

Hi all,going to look at a 2.5 160+ tomorrow with 98000 mile on the clock on a 51 plate in black only prob is dont think belts have been done but seller says that most owners dont replace cam belts as they dont fail!? also no service history.I've also got to look at a 2.5 190+ with some service history full sat nav and tv with 67000 mile on clock but again not sure about cam belts,any idea which one would be the SAFER bet? i know nobody has a crystal ball but is there ant difference on the two engines? is a 190 just a 160 remapped?
Many thanks

for a start if the first buyer tells you that about most owners not replacing them, then walk away.

190 has different camshafts etc.

[coab]

Its basically the same set up. As most 190+ owners know its the best engine, get the belts done and away you go!
Power and power and smile.:xmas-smiley-013:
The oil burner people on here constantly try to up their power, chips remaps and all sorts but wont admit to the ZT superior.
Buy an oil burner and run it for mpg fine but why bother to catch up...
Those 1.8T owners are at it again big changes and new this and that! Us 190 owners don't see the need to increase the superior power as we are happy.



Only kidding everyone!

All engines have something to offer so buy the car get it sorted and it puts your mind to rest.

[Fusilier]

KV6 190 also has Bigger front brakes 325mm, compared to KV6 160 which has 284mm, 160 can only be re-mapped to 177, and as has been mentioned different cams as well.

Belts do need to be done at 90,000 miles or 6 years which ever comes first. I would go for the 190 which has some service history if I were you.

Stu

[coab]

On a serious note, my 190 did 115k miles and no belt change from new. The tensioner was shot and the main belt was within days of snapping but the two rear MG Rover belts were like brand new! Get the water pump done at the same time and after pop along to a nano meet to get your VIS motors checked.:xmas-smiley-013:

Rear exhaust specially designed for the extra note.

[willcope]

Thanks for the replies,what does it cost to get belts and water pump done?

[littlened]

Originally Posted by willcope

Thanks for the replies,what does it cost to get belts and water pump done?

Anywhere between £500-£800.

[MrDoodles]

Originally Posted by littlened

Anywhere between £500-£800.

£450-500 is probably closer, providing you use one of the Specialists on here!

That way, you also have the peace of mind of knowing that the job has been done properly too! :xmas-smiley-031:

[Canonite]

'Most owners' ?
He's fobbing you off, the reason a lot of these cars turn up on ebay cheap is because of the cost of a cambelt replacement. If you use MG Rover parts you need main belt, two rear belts, idler, tensioner and a waterpump which would set you back around £500+ fitted.

Its part of the cars service schedule so should be done, factor this into a price and knock him down if its not been done.

160 v 190 ?
The 190 runs different cams, different airbox, larger bore exhaust system and the gearing is closer than on the 160.

The 160 is more economical on a run due to revving lower at speed. But you dont buy a big V6 if you're watching fuel economy.
The 190 comes in an SE format where the 160 and 1.8 doesnt.

Shop around, read the Buyers Guide on here and choose wisely

[MrDoodles]

Plenty of nice cheap 190's with full history, if you are prepared to have a little patience! :xmas-smiley-031: