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Old 21st September 2021, 17:48   #1
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Default Driving test for manual gearboxes relevant in this day & age!

Will there be any point in a learner driver taking lessons for a driving test in a manual car in this day & age? Will it become a lost art as the upcoming new world order of BEV cars doesn't need a clutch or a gearbox or an autobox.

I've often wondered if the car driving test today has changed to accommodate the 'One pedal' driving with brake regeneration or the examiner asking the learner those ' show me tell me' vehicle questions about the EV whether they know their kW's from their kWh's
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Old 21st September 2021, 18:38   #2
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I think the answer is yes, a lot of youngsters will still buy a petrol or diesel. What will become of the classic cars if people start passing their tests in electric cars? Remember, petrol and diesel cars are still being sold new and will be for a few years to come.

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I agree I think Petrol and Diesel powered vehicles will be here for a long time yet if the general public and legislation allows. I know both my sons who are in there 20's are both petrol heads, one has access to an electric car ( pool car at work) and has no desire to own one.

I think the government might have to push there date back unless something changes soon with the infrastructure for electric cars, I have heard so many stories of people struggling to get there cars charged or topped up and with the sales increasing year on year there will need to be a charge point on almost every street corner or they will be unusable unless they are relying on most owners to have home chargers. That brings in another problem as to if the National Grid can cope with millions of cars and vans being plugged in at 6pm every night through the week.
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Last time a drove a hire car it was a little Peugeot with a modern duel clutch box with paddles etc. It was impressive in its simplicity and made driving very easy. I remember thinking would someone who has passed an auto only test be able to drive it?
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I think the answer is yes, a lot of youngsters will still buy a petrol or diesel. What will become of the classic cars if people start passing their tests in electric cars? Remember, petrol and diesel cars are still being sold new and will be for a few years to come.

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I'm not sure about that!, The Euro Cat 7 emission standards will all but kill off new diesel vehicles in 2025 with emission standard limit of 50g/Km, To put that into perspective the Rover 75 2.5V6 has emissions of 268g/Km. Most car manufacturers have committed to transitioning over to Electric well before the 2030 ICE ban otherwise they will be left with huge stranded assets.


This upcoming 'Fit for 55' doesn't make for good reading & before anyone says that's the EU nowt to do with us, the UK is intertwined with EU standards besides our government has gone a step further & committed to a more stringent emission standard than that of the EU by signing into law a 68% reduction in emissions before 2030

https://www.euractiv.com/section/tra...iesel-engines/


The big climate chief Timmermanns has said it's going to be a bigger disruption than the industrial revolution was the first time around.


Jaguar will be going all electric in by 2025

Land rover will be 60% electric by the cut off date 2030.
Honda have committed to selling only 'electrified cars by 2022.
The Stellantis group are going fully electric by 2028.
Renault will be 90% electric by the cut off date 2030.
Volvo will be 50/50 split by 2030.
VW will continue making ICE til 2030.
Toyota will release 15 new electric models by 2025.
Mercedes will be fully electric by 2025.
BMW will be 50% electric by the cut off date 2030.
Ford Europe will be all electric by 2030.
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Last time a drove a hire car it was a little Peugeot with a modern duel clutch box with paddles etc. It was impressive in its simplicity and made driving very easy. I remember thinking would someone who has passed an auto only test be able to drive it?
Yes, even though they are manual gearboxes, they are and can be driven automatically with two pedals. My sister has one, driving with an auto only licence.

Currently in for the third time in three years for gearbox repairs. Solenoid and ecu are always playing up. Best way to drive it I found was as a manual. Foot off accelerator, change gear, foot on accelerator again.

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I past my test many, many, many years a go when working for the railways on a Scammel Trojan, always had to double declutch still do it to this very day.

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I pasty my test many, many, many years a go when working for the railways on a Scammel Trojan, always had to double declutch still do it to this very day.

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Was that when you were Henry Ford's model 'T' test driver?
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Currently in for the third time in three years for gearbox repairs. Solenoid and ecu are always playing up. Best way to drive it I found was as a manual. Foot off accelerator, change gear, foot on accelerator again.
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Sounds just like a 50/60's pre-select gearbox as fitted in some Morris models and other makes.

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Was that when you were Henry Ford's model 'T' test driver?
You can be so cruel. Have some more!!!!

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