No oil in gearbox

Tingers · 30th May 2018, 15:25

I changed my gearbox oil at the weekend only to discover that there were only a few drops of old oil in the sump. Just a bit worrying and would explain the increased difficulty in finding 4th gear.

I removed the undertray some time ago and it did have visible signs of oil on it but I assumed the garage had been careless when they previously serviced the car.

I dutifully re-filled the gearbox but was disappointed to see the oil dripping out of the sump after a drive of a few miles. It was dripping from the same location as the drain plug.

Looking under the car I think (hope) that I simply need to replace the sump plugs but that's where I'm having problems. Rimmers don't appear to sell them anymore (their chap was most helpful / apologetic!) and Europarts similarly don't seem to stock them.

Has anyone got any suggestions as to where I can buy two new plugs ( the torx fittings on both the filler and drain plugs are pretty worn) or, if not available, any suggestions as to how to stop it leaking?

A friend has suggested PTFE tape but I'm not sure it would survive? Any suggestions greatfully received!

Thanks

TomRS · 30th May 2018, 15:36

Is this a manual box or an auto? i'll assume manual from the "finding 4th" comment.
If its indeed leaking out from the drain plug then some PTFE tape will help for now at the very least.
As for finding a new one i'd get the thread and pitch measured and just find a plug from a different car.
You can buy plugs from eBay to suit older Land Rovers and things so if its the same dimensions you could get lucky?

Tingers · 30th May 2018, 15:46

Hi Tom - thanks for the quick reply. Yes - sorry - I should have been more specific - it is a manual box. I'll do an emergency fix with some PTFE and search around for a replacement.

TomRS · 30th May 2018, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tingers

Hi Tom - thanks for the quick reply. Yes - sorry - I should have been more specific - it is a manual box. I'll do an emergency fix with some PTFE and search around for a replacement.

No problem at all!

I would say PTFE works ok as i had to fix a diesel leak on my old A4 using this method.
The hard pipe to injector from the high pressure pump leaked a stream of diesel constantly.
I wrapped it in PTFE and tightened it down and i never leaked again, if it can stop high pressure diesel it should work just fine for now on your sump plug.
Add some PTFE and a copper washer (new one) to help crush out any surface imperfections.
Hope this helps!

RoverP480 · 30th May 2018, 17:42

Is this it http://www.allcarpartsfast.co.uk/mg-...-filler-level/, of course they may not have stock.

Daveluck · 30th May 2018, 20:40

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8pcs-Oil-...item2139532634

I used these. They are about 2 threads longer than the original. I don't think this is a problem but I cut mine down with a hacksaw.

I got these as both my plugs had been rounded off and the Allen key just spun. I had to use a chisel to get them off. With these you have a nice big nut that you can easily use but take car when tightening up as you could strip the threads.

When I got these about 18 months ago they were only 6 quid!

kaiser · 31st May 2018, 06:09

It is most likely just a matter of fitting a small gasket/seal around the bolt.

Any oil leak must be investigated and watched.

"Assume" is seldom a good strategy.

Arctic · 31st May 2018, 10:07

Hi Ian
Try this link below and you may have a bit of success

always double check before purchase though.

http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.ph...g_freelander_1

http://www.brit-car.co.uk/product.ph...__freelander_1
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TomRS · 31st May 2018, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveluck

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8pcs-Oil-...item2139532634

I used these. They are about 2 threads longer than the original. I don't think this is a problem but I cut mine down with a hacksaw.

I got these as both my plugs had been rounded off and the Allen key just spun. I had to use a chisel to get them off. With these you have a nice big nut that you can easily use but take car when tightening up as you could strip the threads.

When I got these about 18 months ago they were only 6 quid!

Perfect! And having a tiny bit more thread will not affect anything, it'll just stick further into the gearbox but 2mm isnt going to make any odds.

Tingers · 10th June 2018, 19:27

Hi Arctic - sorry for the delay in replying - work sort of took over the pleasure of fixing my car!

Many thanks for the link - will order replacements this eve.

Cheers

30th May 2018, 15:25	#1
Tingers Regular poster Remapped Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTi SE Saloon Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	No oil in gearbox I changed my gearbox oil at the weekend only to discover that there were only a few drops of old oil in the sump. Just a bit worrying and would explain the increased difficulty in finding 4th gear. I removed the undertray some time ago and it did have visible signs of oil on it but I assumed the garage had been careless when they previously serviced the car. I dutifully re-filled the gearbox but was disappointed to see the oil dripping out of the sump after a drive of a few miles. It was dripping from the same location as the drain plug. Looking under the car I think (hope) that I simply need to replace the sump plugs but that's where I'm having problems. Rimmers don't appear to sell them anymore (their chap was most helpful / apologetic!) and Europarts similarly don't seem to stock them. Has anyone got any suggestions as to where I can buy two new plugs ( the torx fittings on both the filler and drain plugs are pretty worn) or, if not available, any suggestions as to how to stop it leaking? A friend has suggested PTFE tape but I'm not sure it would survive? Any suggestions greatfully received! Thanks __________________ Tingers She's the love of my life - the wife's not too bad either

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Tingers Regular poster Remapped Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTi SE Saloon Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hi Tom - thanks for the quick reply. Yes - sorry - I should have been more specific - it is a manual box. I'll do an emergency fix with some PTFE and search around for a replacement. __________________ Tingers She's the love of my life - the wife's not too bad either

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Daveluck Gets stuck in 75 saloon 2.0 diesel Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Panton, lugo, Galicia Posts: 945 Thanks: 236 Thanked 192 Times in 143 Posts	https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8pcs-Oil-...item2139532634 I used these. They are about 2 threads longer than the original. I don't think this is a problem but I cut mine down with a hacksaw. I got these as both my plugs had been rounded off and the Allen key just spun. I had to use a chisel to get them off. With these you have a nice big nut that you can easily use but take car when tightening up as you could strip the threads. When I got these about 18 months ago they were only 6 quid!

10th June 2018, 19:27	#10
Tingers Regular poster Remapped Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTi SE Saloon Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hi Arctic - sorry for the delay in replying - work sort of took over the pleasure of fixing my car! Many thanks for the link - will order replacements this eve. Cheers __________________ Tingers She's the love of my life - the wife's not too bad either