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sworks · 28th September 2007, 22:16

prices were £27.995 to £33.750

saloon 0-60 6.4 secs tourer 6.5 secs combined mpg 21.5

engine ecu's are interchangeable as there are no zcs codes

if you 'bump start' in reverse the timing chain can jump teeth

oil capacity 5.2 litres ACEA A3 5W /30

coolant capacity 12.61 litres

gearbox capacity 3.8 litres (changed at 120,000 or 8 years)

gearbox oil level is 21mm below the filler plug - very important

if you hit the rev limiter, fault code p1270 will show and car will idle eratic. Ignition off and back on will clear the code

A digital speedo can be found in 'highline' menu

exhaust is stainless steel over the rear axle to last longer - the axle needs to be removed to change it

Cuda-uk · 29th September 2007, 06:10

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Originally Posted by sworks

if you 'bump start' in reverse the timing chain can jump teeth

That somehow does not ring true to me, regardless of which gear you are in the engine will always follow its correct rotation. Unless of course you try and pull the car forward whilst you have reverse selected.

philby777 · 29th September 2007, 15:12

About no ZCS codes just had my R75V8 on a T4 for the first time to try and fix the ep light on the dash and enable some features. This was done by a ex mg guy with experience with the 2 psni R75v8's and a MGZT 260 in belfast. After an hour trying to connect via R75V8 and MGZTV8 with no comm being established he connected via standard MGZT and the T4 recognised a desiel variant so he was able to enable the features ie speed lock bathrobe locking ect but it could not communicate with the engine or autobox . Now the guy thinks I need ZCS codes to change the car from thinking it desiel to a V8 (but after reading that they have no zcs codes? ).
Keith if you are reading this have you experienced anything like this ? the version on his t4 disk was 5.06 On the engine management ecu it says unkown and GM SA VN are all zero's. One thing I did notice was that the page which tells you which lead numbers to use did not match with lead numbers he was using but he said this was normal. Any suggestions ?

Tim · 29th September 2007, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by sworks

prices were £27.995 to £33.750

saloon 0-60 6.4 secs tourer 6.5 secs combined mpg 21.5

engine ecu's are interchangeable as there are no zcs codes

if you 'bump start' in reverse the timing chain can jump teeth

oil capacity 5.2 litres ACEA A3 5W /30

coolant capacity 12.61 litres

gearbox capacity 3.8 litres (changed at 120,000 or 8 years)

gearbox oil level is 21mm below the filler plug - very important

if you hit the rev limiter, fault code p1270 will show and car will idle eratic. Ignition off and back on will clear the code

A digital speedo can be found in 'highline' menu

exhaust is stainless steel over the rear axle to last longer - the axle needs to be removed to change it

Sworks where did you get your info from?

Some of the detail is a bit out. Example: ECU's are coded to the car, I've had first hand experience of this as mine is not the original.

Keith · 29th September 2007, 20:55

Phil my T4 works fine with the 260 and 75 V8 but your car is a bit of an oddity so maybe it has some unusual features or non standard firmware in the ECUs I am surprised it would not connect at all though as things like ABS, BCU, LSM, Nav etc are all standard

What I have realised is that the V8s seem to work better with a faster laptop than the normal one that comes with T4

re ZCS codes the car has all the normal codes it is just the Engine ECU that does not support ZCS that is why the V8 has a Gateway ECU instead to translate to/from the Ford ECU

sworks · 29th September 2007, 22:44

no zcs codes as the pcm is ford EECV, as Keith says there is a gateway ecu which is used to get the ford management to 'talk' to everything else

The timing chain can jump if the engine is rotated anti clockwise because the tensioner can compress

The info is from my MG ZT/ZT-T 260 introduction training course with Rover. Some info on the courses weren't always correct as things can change prior to production. This course however was as the cars were being launched. I am currently sorting out with Pete to get the notes reproduced for the forum archives as well as 1.8 turbo intro and lpg intro

philby777 · 1st October 2007, 21:19

Hi Keith
thanks for the reply the guy was using a faster laptop he did connect to the ABS but as for the satnav it showed none while I have a working mk3. how can the speedo work if the car doesnt no what gearbox it has ? Do you think I need a new V8 gateway ecu ? ( is there a part no for this ? and price?).
PS can you upgrade the firmware on the mk3 satnav to show split screen?
sorry for all the questions
Phil

Keith · 1st October 2007, 21:50

If you have a standard Rover Nav comp then no you can't reflash that unit
Speedo work via K bus info from the ABS ECU which in turn is using the ABS sensors

I doubt you need a gateway it might be you need to get you ZCS codes verified and perhps enter corrected ones

If the T4 connected to anything get a printout of the GM SA and VN codes then send to Xpart to get them verified

28th September 2007, 22:16	#1
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	did you know? prices were £27.995 to £33.750 saloon 0-60 6.4 secs tourer 6.5 secs combined mpg 21.5 engine ecu's are interchangeable as there are no zcs codes if you 'bump start' in reverse the timing chain can jump teeth oil capacity 5.2 litres ACEA A3 5W /30 coolant capacity 12.61 litres gearbox capacity 3.8 litres (changed at 120,000 or 8 years) gearbox oil level is 21mm below the filler plug - very important if you hit the rev limiter, fault code p1270 will show and car will idle eratic. Ignition off and back on will clear the code A digital speedo can be found in 'highline' menu exhaust is stainless steel over the rear axle to last longer - the axle needs to be removed to change it __________________ ................................................. 'Marmite' Possibly one of the most famous 75 tourers produced! left the production line as the last of only Three Rover 75 tourers produced in Trophy Yellow. 48 hours later Longbridge closed. The last sold ordered 75 Tourer. Paid for by the Phoenix Four and handed over by John Towers to the Warwickshire Northampton Air ambulance service as a Rapid Response vehicle

29th September 2007, 15:12	#3
philby777 Regular poster R75V8 development car Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Co Down Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	no zcs codes About no ZCS codes just had my R75V8 on a T4 for the first time to try and fix the ep light on the dash and enable some features. This was done by a ex mg guy with experience with the 2 psni R75v8's and a MGZT 260 in belfast. After an hour trying to connect via R75V8 and MGZTV8 with no comm being established he connected via standard MGZT and the T4 recognised a desiel variant so he was able to enable the features ie speed lock bathrobe locking ect but it could not communicate with the engine or autobox . Now the guy thinks I need ZCS codes to change the car from thinking it desiel to a V8 (but after reading that they have no zcs codes? ). Keith if you are reading this have you experienced anything like this ? the version on his t4 disk was 5.06 On the engine management ecu it says unkown and GM SA VN are all zero's. One thing I did notice was that the page which tells you which lead numbers to use did not match with lead numbers he was using but he said this was normal. Any suggestions ?

29th September 2007, 22:44	#6
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	no zcs codes as the pcm is ford EECV, as Keith says there is a gateway ecu which is used to get the ford management to 'talk' to everything else The timing chain can jump if the engine is rotated anti clockwise because the tensioner can compress The info is from my MG ZT/ZT-T 260 introduction training course with Rover. Some info on the courses weren't always correct as things can change prior to production. This course however was as the cars were being launched. I am currently sorting out with Pete to get the notes reproduced for the forum archives as well as 1.8 turbo intro and lpg intro __________________ ................................................. 'Marmite' Possibly one of the most famous 75 tourers produced! left the production line as the last of only Three Rover 75 tourers produced in Trophy Yellow. 48 hours later Longbridge closed. The last sold ordered 75 Tourer. Paid for by the Phoenix Four and handed over by John Towers to the Warwickshire Northampton Air ambulance service as a Rapid Response vehicle

29th September 2007, 20:55	#5
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Phil my T4 works fine with the 260 and 75 V8 but your car is a bit of an oddity so maybe it has some unusual features or non standard firmware in the ECUs I am surprised it would not connect at all though as things like ABS, BCU, LSM, Nav etc are all standard What I have realised is that the V8s seem to work better with a faster laptop than the normal one that comes with T4 re ZCS codes the car has all the normal codes it is just the Engine ECU that does not support ZCS that is why the V8 has a Gateway ECU instead to translate to/from the Ford ECU

1st October 2007, 21:19	#7
philby777 Regular poster R75V8 development car Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Co Down Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Keith thanks for the reply the guy was using a faster laptop he did connect to the ABS but as for the satnav it showed none while I have a working mk3. how can the speedo work if the car doesnt no what gearbox it has ? Do you think I need a new V8 gateway ecu ? ( is there a part no for this ? and price?). PS can you upgrade the firmware on the mk3 satnav to show split screen? sorry for all the questions Phil

1st October 2007, 21:50	#8
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	If you have a standard Rover Nav comp then no you can't reflash that unit Speedo work via K bus info from the ABS ECU which in turn is using the ABS sensors I doubt you need a gateway it might be you need to get you ZCS codes verified and perhps enter corrected ones If the T4 connected to anything get a printout of the GM SA and VN codes then send to Xpart to get them verified