rover 75 taken 4 - 5 attempts to start

myrover2013 · 23rd November 2016, 16:08

Hi everyone,

Im scratching my head on this one, we have had the car for 4 years and it has never missed a beat, starts first time every time, serviced once a year , with the oil being changed every 6 months, so i do look after the old girl.

Now when i go and start her up, she is not responding the way i know she can,

i have check the two fuel pumps and they are priming, could it be

1, dirty fuel

2, dirty fuel filter

3, glow plugs needing changed

4, injectors being dirty or knackered

5, fuel starvation.

6, oh and we have a brand new battery that has a 5 year warranty

when she does start, she is not as responsive as she usually is, but still pulls away fine, and the automatic box is changing just fine, that got a new oil change just two years ago.

any ideas anyone, before i take it to the garage for my mechanic to have for a week.

kind regards

david.

murphyv310 · 23rd November 2016, 16:16

I believe there is a mega fuse that feeds the glowplug relay, it may have blown or you have a glowplug relay issue.
I'm sure one of the oil burner chaps will help you out soon.
Good luck.

FrenchMike · 23rd November 2016, 16:23

Forget the glow plugs useless except in Siberia

Firstly ,i would carry out a injector leakback test

Good luck

Mike

Greeners · 23rd November 2016, 16:23

Assuming your ECU is dry I'd start with an injector leak back test

myrover2013 · 23rd November 2016, 16:30

Hi guys, is this what i should tell my mechanic,

injector leak back test
__________________

ECU is bone dry guys

Greeners · 23rd November 2016, 16:36

It's simple enough to do yourself with minimal tools and equipment

FrenchMike · 23rd November 2016, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by myrover2013

Hi guys, is this what i should tell my mechanic,

injector leak back test
__________________

ECU is bone dry guys

Yes,but he could try some injector cleaner first

COLVERT · 23rd November 2016, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by myrover2013

Hi guys, is this what i should tell my mechanic,

injector leak back test
__________________

ECU is bone dry guys

YES. And there is a good How-To on the forum with pictures.---

TomRS · 23rd November 2016, 16:38

Leak back test, could also be low pressure from a failed in tank pump or failing under bonnet pump.

Seal on the High pressure pump could also be at fault, i'd start by checking both pumps operation and doing a leak back test.

As Mike said glow plugs are completely not needed on these engines are will start just fine unless the weather is high into the minus's

myrover2013 · 23rd November 2016, 17:03

thanks guys ,

hope i can get her back on the road ,

23rd November 2016, 16:08	#1
myrover2013 Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR SE in copper leaf red Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NORWICH Posts: 1,527 Thanks: 510 Thanked 134 Times in 111 Posts	rover 75 taken 4 - 5 attempts to start Hi everyone, Im scratching my head on this one, we have had the car for 4 years and it has never missed a beat, starts first time every time, serviced once a year , with the oil being changed every 6 months, so i do look after the old girl. Now when i go and start her up, she is not responding the way i know she can, i have check the two fuel pumps and they are priming, could it be 1, dirty fuel 2, dirty fuel filter 3, glow plugs needing changed 4, injectors being dirty or knackered 5, fuel starvation. 6, oh and we have a brand new battery that has a 5 year warranty when she does start, she is not as responsive as she usually is, but still pulls away fine, and the automatic box is changing just fine, that got a new oil change just two years ago. any ideas anyone, before i take it to the garage for my mechanic to have for a week. kind regards david. __________________ http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...h.jpg~original Last edited by myrover2013; 23rd November 2016 at 16:28..

23rd November 2016, 16:16	#2
murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	I believe there is a mega fuse that feeds the glowplug relay, it may have blown or you have a glowplug relay issue. I'm sure one of the oil burner chaps will help you out soon. Good luck. __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

23rd November 2016, 16:23	#4
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	Assuming your ECU is dry I'd start with an injector leak back test __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

23rd November 2016, 16:30	#5
myrover2013 Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR SE in copper leaf red Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NORWICH Posts: 1,527 Thanks: 510 Thanked 134 Times in 111 Posts	Hi guys, is this what i should tell my mechanic, injector leak back test __________________ ECU is bone dry guys __________________ http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...h.jpg~original

23rd November 2016, 16:36	#6
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	It's simple enough to do yourself with minimal tools and equipment __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

23rd November 2016, 16:23	#3
FrenchMike This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Avignon Posts: 4,466 Thanks: 94 Thanked 661 Times in 554 Posts	Forget the glow plugs useless except in Siberia Firstly ,i would carry out a injector leakback test Good luck Mike

23rd November 2016, 16:38	#9
TomRS Posted a thing or two Mk1 ZT 190 - Mk2 ZS 180 - Mercedes E63 AMG S - Ford Ranger Hawk Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 1,456 Thanks: 123 Thanked 409 Times in 281 Posts	Leak back test, could also be low pressure from a failed in tank pump or failing under bonnet pump. Seal on the High pressure pump could also be at fault, i'd start by checking both pumps operation and doing a leak back test. As Mike said glow plugs are completely not needed on these engines are will start just fine unless the weather is high into the minus's __________________ http://i66.tinypic.com/5cd6xj.jpg

23rd November 2016, 17:03	#10
myrover2013 Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 CONNOISSEUR SE in copper leaf red Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NORWICH Posts: 1,527 Thanks: 510 Thanked 134 Times in 111 Posts	thanks guys , hope i can get her back on the road , __________________ http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...h.jpg~original