Disgusting behaviour

RPWC · 23rd December 2020, 14:11

By the British government,leaving thousands of foreign lorry drivers stuck in their cabs without food or drink. It should not be left to charities and the Sikh community to provide this for them. Fair enough France closed the border but the UK has been aware of the new variant since September and failed to act until it was out of control AGAIN. France is only protecting it's population. It's inhuman to treat people like this. As someone involved with the transport industry I really feel sorry for these drivers who will not spend Xmas with their families,through absolutely no fault of their own. France has ordered testing for the drivers before letting them in, this should not be necessary unless they are actually stopping in France. If they are just driving through then they should be allowed to just pass through.

trikey · 23rd December 2020, 14:28

Like most of the rules Richard, they have not been thought through properly.

The very least they should have is a line of communication, it’s awful for them to have to wait without knowing what is going on regardless of the need for food, drink and washing facilities.

On the radio yesterday was a woman complaining about trucks parked in her street blocking access to the shops. Pity she didn’t put the kettle on for the drivers and make them a sandwich.

Lancpudn · 23rd December 2020, 14:42

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Originally Posted by trikey

Like most of the rules Richard, they have not been thought through properly.

The very least they should have is a line of communication, it’s awful for them to have to wait without knowing what is going on regardless of the need for food, drink and washing facilities.

On the radio yesterday was a woman complaining about trucks parked in her street blocking access to the shops. Pity she didn’t put the kettle on for the drivers and make them a sandwich.

The Kent council have applied for & been given powers to clamp lorries to enable the council to keep roads in the county clear of illegally parked HGVs in Ashford, Canterbury, Dover, Folkestone and Hythe, Maidstone, Swale and Thanet.
Where the heck are they supposed to go!!!! It's outrageous.

https://www.transport-network.co.uk/...-parking/17027

KWIL · 23rd December 2020, 14:51

Here we go again, all so very easy with hindsight!

Initial variant found in September but the medical comments were not made until last week.

Nobody could have forseen the abrupt French closure, whatever has happened to the usual protest that "they could have given us more notice" that seems to occur when the rules are changed here?

Lovel · 23rd December 2020, 15:01

Surely the lessons learned from operation stack over the years has sussed it out that drivers need feeding, watering and toilet facilities.

Dad’s army comes to mind

Lovel · 23rd December 2020, 15:05

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Originally Posted by KWIL

Here we go again, all so very easy with hindsight!

Initial variant found in September but the medical comments were not made until last week.

Nobody could have forseen the abrupt French closure, whatever has happened to the usual protest that "they could have given us more notice" that seems to occur when the rules are changed here?

I bet they wish that that announcement was never made in an effort to try and scare the public in UK. It certainly worked around the world despite it being rife around the globe already. Sometimes our boffins should think about the impact of their brothers Grimm stories before going public.

KWIL · 23rd December 2020, 15:20

With hindsight (again), the job of Operation Stack should have been given to the Road Haulage Association perhaps?

They would have better understood Driver's needs rather than a bunch of office bound Civil Servants!

MissMoppet · 23rd December 2020, 19:38

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Originally Posted by trikey

Pity she didn’t put the kettle on for the drivers and make them a sandwich.

We have some close relatives who live within sight of Manston and they made and delivered lots of sausage rolls to the drivers. They were roundly abused by a local woman for their pains. Unbelievable. They happened to meet the German Amabassador there - I'm told their pic might be in the Daily Wail.

WillyHeckaslike · 23rd December 2020, 20:01

Agree, by the likes of Macron and his supporters and the so-called EU.

SCP440 · 23rd December 2020, 20:33

I was listening to the news today and some of the stories I found shocking, drivers who can not speak any English and had run out of money were stranded, do they not have a mobile phone with a translate app? Do they come here with no credit card or a change of clothes in case there is a problem? Yes I get it that were coming over one day and heading back the next but what would happen if they had a major breakdown or got sick?

It is easy to point a finger at the government but they had little or no warning that the French were going to shut there borders and I think they have a lot going on at the moment.

I wonder what the French would have done if the position had been reversed? My guess our drivers would have been left deserted.

We need to stop trying to find the negative in every problem at the moment, the BBC are doing a good enough job of that with out us all jumping on the same bandwagon. No present day government had ever had to do this before and my guess if any of us were ask to try and sort this out we could have not done a better job.

23rd December 2020, 14:11	#1
RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,177 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	Disgusting behaviour By the British government,leaving thousands of foreign lorry drivers stuck in their cabs without food or drink. It should not be left to charities and the Sikh community to provide this for them. Fair enough France closed the border but the UK has been aware of the new variant since September and failed to act until it was out of control AGAIN. France is only protecting it's population. It's inhuman to treat people like this. As someone involved with the transport industry I really feel sorry for these drivers who will not spend Xmas with their families,through absolutely no fault of their own. France has ordered testing for the drivers before letting them in, this should not be necessary unless they are actually stopping in France. If they are just driving through then they should be allowed to just pass through. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

23rd December 2020, 14:28	#2
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,772 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Like most of the rules Richard, they have not been thought through properly. The very least they should have is a line of communication, it’s awful for them to have to wait without knowing what is going on regardless of the need for food, drink and washing facilities. On the radio yesterday was a woman complaining about trucks parked in her street blocking access to the shops. Pity she didn’t put the kettle on for the drivers and make them a sandwich. __________________ Lest we forget..

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WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,522 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	Disgusting behaviour Agree, by the likes of Macron and his supporters and the so-called EU.

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KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Here we go again, all so very easy with hindsight! Initial variant found in September but the medical comments were not made until last week. Nobody could have forseen the abrupt French closure, whatever has happened to the usual protest that "they could have given us more notice" that seems to occur when the rules are changed here?

23rd December 2020, 15:01	#5
Lovel I really should get out more....... P6B, L550, Imp, F56, Commando Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,886 Thanks: 352 Thanked 677 Times in 440 Posts	Surely the lessons learned from operation stack over the years has sussed it out that drivers need feeding, watering and toilet facilities. Dad’s army comes to mind

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KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	With hindsight (again), the job of Operation Stack should have been given to the Road Haulage Association perhaps? They would have better understood Driver's needs rather than a bunch of office bound Civil Servants!

23rd December 2020, 20:33	#10
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	I was listening to the news today and some of the stories I found shocking, drivers who can not speak any English and had run out of money were stranded, do they not have a mobile phone with a translate app? Do they come here with no credit card or a change of clothes in case there is a problem? Yes I get it that were coming over one day and heading back the next but what would happen if they had a major breakdown or got sick? It is easy to point a finger at the government but they had little or no warning that the French were going to shut there borders and I think they have a lot going on at the moment. I wonder what the French would have done if the position had been reversed? My guess our drivers would have been left deserted. We need to stop trying to find the negative in every problem at the moment, the BBC are doing a good enough job of that with out us all jumping on the same bandwagon. No present day government had ever had to do this before and my guess if any of us were ask to try and sort this out we could have not done a better job.