Would you buy a heavy 4x4 for safety reasons

Brit · 18th January 2019, 07:25

You might think, if unfortunately you were involved in an accident with a small Kia, you would not come of worse in an accident if you were driving a really heavy 4x4.

marinabrian · 18th January 2019, 07:54

Are you speaking from experience here?

Brit · 18th January 2019, 08:01

No, neither am I 97 years old

Jim Jamieson · 18th January 2019, 08:24

Many drivers think they are safe in a 4x4 but due to their height and weight distribution they are more likely to topple over as a certain gentleman found recently.
In a straight forward collision many factors come into the equation such as air bags.
I was unfortunate enough to have been involved in a collision whilst driving my Jaguar XF where I was side swiped by a VW Polo
The curtain airbags saved me from injury to to my head whereas if I had been driving my 75 I would not have had this protection.
The steering wheel airbag was not deployed in my accident, only the side (curtain) airbag.
Amazingly the Polo survived obviously after repairs but the XF was a total write off.

Yella Fella · 18th January 2019, 08:44

Couldn't agree more Jim, these SUV designs are very vulnerable to flipping over.

Youtube and the like are full of video clips of accidents where they flip, some surprisingly easily.

Worryingly they advertise these style of cars as great for families.

grivas · 18th January 2019, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Yella Fella

Couldn't agree more Jim, these SUV designs are very vulnerable to flipping over.

Youtube and the like are full of video clips of accidents where they flip, some surprisingly easily.

Worryingly they advertise these style of cars as great for families.

in my opinion these so called 4x4s SUVs etc have no place on our busy congested and not fit for purpose roads, drivers choosing to have these, clearly for the no other reason than to compensate for other deficiencies should be taxed heavily, and be able to pass a special driving test, in any case ALL drivers should have to take a mandatory retest every 5 years for their health and safety, and not forgetting training purposes. The driving test in the UK is far too simple now, I mean no motorway training whatever, that is ridiculous.!!

roverbarmy · 18th January 2019, 08:44

Luckily, Daisy Duke was nowhere to be seen at the time!

Also, luckily, no serious injuries for all concerned. Metal is replaceable.

RoverP480 · 18th January 2019, 09:01

The tyres on modern cars also make them easier to turn over as the grip levels are very high . Old cars with skinny crossply tyres would just slide.

Lord of Hog · 18th January 2019, 09:04

Any vehicle will turn over if a sufficiently hard impact changes its direction of travel and thus its centre of gravity enough. Just have a look at the Russian Dash Cam movies on You Tube. I've always had a 4x4 of some description but that's more to do with more predictable handling when there's something other than dry tarmac under the tyres.

KLM · 18th January 2019, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Brit

No, neither am I 97 years old

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=291987

Kev.

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Brit Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Hampton Hill Posts: 32 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Would you buy a heavy 4x4 for safety reasons You might think, if unfortunately you were involved in an accident with a small Kia, you would not come of worse in an accident if you were driving a really heavy 4x4.

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Yella Fella Nemo Me Impune Lacessit None at the moment Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow's HMP Barlinnie, 'A' Hall, 2nd Flat Posts: 5,192 Thanks: 493 Thanked 1,094 Times in 666 Posts	Couldn't agree more Jim, these SUV designs are very vulnerable to flipping over. Youtube and the like are full of video clips of accidents where they flip, some surprisingly easily. Worryingly they advertise these style of cars as great for families. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by Yella Fella; 18th January 2019 at 08:54..

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roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Luckily, Daisy Duke was nowhere to be seen at the time! Also, luckily, no serious injuries for all concerned. Metal is replaceable. __________________ Oil in my veins! Last edited by roverbarmy; 18th January 2019 at 09:07..

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Lord of Hog Gets stuck in Rover 75 2.5 V6 in Wedgwood Blue Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Felbridge, East Grinstead Posts: 982 Thanks: 250 Thanked 294 Times in 206 Posts	Any vehicle will turn over if a sufficiently hard impact changes its direction of travel and thus its centre of gravity enough. Just have a look at the Russian Dash Cam movies on You Tube. I've always had a 4x4 of some description but that's more to do with more predictable handling when there's something other than dry tarmac under the tyres. __________________ Conformity is not morality. Consensus is not truth.

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marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	Are you speaking from experience here?

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Brit Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Hampton Hill Posts: 32 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	No, neither am I 97 years old

18th January 2019, 08:24	#4
Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	Many drivers think they are safe in a 4x4 but due to their height and weight distribution they are more likely to topple over as a certain gentleman found recently. In a straight forward collision many factors come into the equation such as air bags. I was unfortunate enough to have been involved in a collision whilst driving my Jaguar XF where I was side swiped by a VW Polo The curtain airbags saved me from injury to to my head whereas if I had been driving my 75 I would not have had this protection. The steering wheel airbag was not deployed in my accident, only the side (curtain) airbag. Amazingly the Polo survived obviously after repairs but the XF was a total write off.

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RoverP480 Gets stuck in None at the moment Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Hereford Posts: 501 Thanks: 1 Thanked 165 Times in 146 Posts	The tyres on modern cars also make them easier to turn over as the grip levels are very high . Old cars with skinny crossply tyres would just slide.