F1 Halo or closed c0ckpit!

Lancpudn · 20th July 2017, 09:29

I see they're bringing in the "Halo" for next season. I think it looks ugly & not really fit for purpose, Are we going to see closed c0ckpits in the future o F1!
Mind you after seeing the McLaren version.......

solarsailor · 20th July 2017, 10:25

Personally I'd far rather they adopted the halo, despite how ugly it looks. To me F1 should be about open top cars with the driver exposed to the elements and, while I appreciate the need to make the sport as safe as possible, a closed cockpit would just turn these machines into Le Mans cars without wings and headlights. Not the way to go.

Number 6 · 20th July 2017, 11:15

excuse my ignorance but what is ..HALO..??...In Ex Para terms it means High Altitude,Low Opening

Lancpudn · 20th July 2017, 11:17

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Originally Posted by solarsailor

Personally I'd far rather they adopted the halo, despite how ugly it looks. To me F1 should be about open top cars with the driver exposed to the elements and, while I appreciate the need to make the sport as safe as possible, a closed cockpit would just turn these machines into Le Mans cars without wings and headlights. Not the way to go.

As nice as that McLaren looks I agree F1 should be open cockpit & open wheel, How are the drivers in the pack going to cope with rain etc, are they going to install wipers on closed cockpit cars!

I wonder how long it taks the design team to start developing the Halo as an aerodynamic wing.

Snetty · 20th July 2017, 11:26

Neither for me, the sport is dangerous but the ethos will be lost if the Fia continue to meddle with the cars.
Safety is important but its debatable whether the halo would have prevented the death of Jules Bianci.

Lancpudn · 20th July 2017, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 6

excuse my ignorance but what is ..HALO..??...In Ex Para terms it means High Altitude,Low Opening

It's a pushchair handle sorry safety device to protect drivers heads. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123089

Rogue · 20th July 2017, 17:28

Having seen them in the flesh at Silverstone this weekend whatever solution they pick will look pretty disasterous. Red bull did have a concept which was a little of both but cosmetically i think looks a little better .Red Bull fairing

Lancpudn · 20th July 2017, 18:58

WoW! Cosworth on their way back as a F1 engine manufacturer

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...2021-f1-return

myfirstrover · 20th July 2017, 20:53

I thought the Ferrari one looked good .

MatP2 · 20th July 2017, 21:38

I just wish the FIA would do things properly. The reason these solutions looks so bad is that they're taped onto the top of cars not designed for them. Throw both ideas in the bin, redesign a set of rules to accommodate a closed cockpit. F1 has had closed cockpits in the past, its nothing really new.

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