V6 190 won't start - Fuel pump?

Telsun · 31st December 2015, 11:47

Long story short! MG ZT 190 will not start. Turning over. Appears to be no fuel (pressing the schrader valve releases no pressure). I have about 11.4 volts at the pump when turning it over. I have fitted new seal and orange clip to fuel filter.

I am stuck!
Long version here: http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=233500

HELP!!

T-Cut · 31st December 2015, 13:00

Does the pump run at ignition on? Listen at the filler cap while your Haynes assistant tuns it on.

If the pump runs for a few seconds then stops, I'd say you still have FFS. Check the seal again, because it's fiddley to get right.

TC

Telsun · 31st December 2015, 13:08

Thanks for the reply. I've checked FFS 4 times now!

I can't hear the pump even with my ear pressed against it...

Telsun · 1st January 2016, 14:57

Connected the pump directly to the battery and can confirm that it is not working....

T-Cut · 1st January 2016, 17:57

That would explain everything.
Clearly, petrol pumps do have a lifespan and maybe reports of failure will increase. There have been a few already.

TC.

Telsun · 6th January 2016, 09:33

Replacement fuel pump fitted, opted for a used complete unit for ease and wa indeed an easy fix. All working fine now

T-Cut · 6th January 2016, 13:47

Thanks for the update. Well fixed.

TC

Typhoon190 · 28th January 2018, 15:11

Hello all.

My Dad's 190 has a failed fuel pump.

I'm looking to get him a replacement Siemens pump from Leader Specialist components on ebay.

Just a bit nervous about removal and fitting as the Haynes manual makes it sound quite challenging.

Has anyone fitted a replacement before, and is it possible for an enthusiast to have a crack? Any points to watch for, and instructions to follow greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Ben.

T-Cut · 28th January 2018, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoon190

My Dad's 190 has a failed fuel pump.

Have you confirmed it as per Telsun's post above?

TC

Typhoon190 · 28th January 2018, 17:27

Hi T-cut.

The pump has been making a lower tone noise for a few months now. The car wouldn't start yesterday, so my Dad called out the AA. A technical tap was performed on top of the fuel pump which prompted the car to start. My Dad drove straight to my house, but when he went to leave, the car wouldn't start again. No noise from the fuel pump at all. Performed a similar technical tap, upon which the pump grumbled. The car started but only ran for a matter of seconds. Tried to start again, and no action from the pump. The fuel filter has been secured with the orange clip.

31st December 2015, 11:47	#1
Telsun Regular poster ZT-T Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Posts: 92 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	V6 190 won't start - Fuel pump? Long story short! MG ZT 190 will not start. Turning over. Appears to be no fuel (pressing the schrader valve releases no pressure). I have about 11.4 volts at the pump when turning it over. I have fitted new seal and orange clip to fuel filter. I am stuck! Long version here: http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=233500 HELP!!

31st December 2015, 13:00	#2
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	Does the pump run at ignition on? Listen at the filler cap while your Haynes assistant tuns it on. If the pump runs for a few seconds then stops, I'd say you still have FFS. Check the seal again, because it's fiddley to get right. TC

31st December 2015, 13:08	#3
Telsun Regular poster ZT-T Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Posts: 92 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the reply. I've checked FFS 4 times now! I can't hear the pump even with my ear pressed against it...

1st January 2016, 14:57	#4
Telsun Regular poster ZT-T Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Posts: 92 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Connected the pump directly to the battery and can confirm that it is not working....

1st January 2016, 17:57	#5
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	That would explain everything. Clearly, petrol pumps do have a lifespan and maybe reports of failure will increase. There have been a few already. TC.

6th January 2016, 09:33	#6
Telsun Regular poster ZT-T Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Posts: 92 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Replacement fuel pump fitted, opted for a used complete unit for ease and wa indeed an easy fix. All working fine now

6th January 2016, 13:47	#7
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	Thanks for the update. Well fixed. TC

28th January 2018, 15:11	#8
Typhoon190 This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Monogram Typhoon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 4,708 Thanks: 328 Thanked 557 Times in 443 Posts	Hello all. My Dad's 190 has a failed fuel pump. I'm looking to get him a replacement Siemens pump from Leader Specialist components on ebay. Just a bit nervous about removal and fitting as the Haynes manual makes it sound quite challenging. Has anyone fitted a replacement before, and is it possible for an enthusiast to have a crack? Any points to watch for, and instructions to follow greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Ben.

28th January 2018, 17:27	#10
Typhoon190 This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Monogram Typhoon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 4,708 Thanks: 328 Thanked 557 Times in 443 Posts	Hi T-cut. The pump has been making a lower tone noise for a few months now. The car wouldn't start yesterday, so my Dad called out the AA. A technical tap was performed on top of the fuel pump which prompted the car to start. My Dad drove straight to my house, but when he went to leave, the car wouldn't start again. No noise from the fuel pump at all. Performed a similar technical tap, upon which the pump grumbled. The car started but only ran for a matter of seconds. Tried to start again, and no action from the pump. The fuel filter has been secured with the orange clip.