How to buy xpart 116-131bhp upgrade? - Page 3

Jules · 23rd February 2010, 09:49

It's a Factory upgrade ECU remap from 116 BHP for older cars (difficult to go by Facelift/ MK1 as both body shapes were issued from the Factory with 116 0r 131 BHP during an overlap period circa 2003/4)

It was generally thought that CDT's were 116 & CDTi's were 131 BHP but many owners have disproved this.

My opinion is that there are 1000's of owners out there that don't know this upgrade exists.
The body weight of these cars needs 131 BHP IMO and is a very worthwhile upgrade.

Rob Bell · 23rd February 2010, 10:37

If I am feeling flush by the time of the next service interval, I might be tempted to do this (under the radar, if you know what I mean! "Expensive service this year dear...!"

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Jules · 23rd February 2010, 10:52

That's just the issue Rob
Many insurance companies don't differentiate/load premiums between a factory 116 and a 131 BHP

It's an "invisible" difference between 2 Standard Cars that were on sale in MGR showrooms. The only difference was the date of issue and even that cannot be pinned down to a definite time.

Members have proved the CDT or CDTi on the Reg document doesn't always mean the Power output which is what insurance companies data bases are going by.
You may not need to be "under the radar" so to speak to have an upgrade but by all means tell your insurance and let us all know the outcome.

There's plenty of other threads on this same subject.

Departed 32016 · 23rd February 2010, 11:28

for the sake of £200 + a t4 session, would you not be cheaper to get an indi to remap for the performance you are looking for, most offer 150 bhp certified for even the 116 model. this works out less than £250 from what i have seen

bobthebuilder · 23rd February 2010, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

Members have proved the CDT or CDTi on the Reg document doesn't always mean the Power output

Can we trust the reported power output bit on the reg document?

I admit I thought all Facelift models were 131, so wondered if mine really was. Last night I checked and the reg doc claims it is - albeit in kWs.

Departed 32016 · 23rd February 2010, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobthebuilder

Can we trust the reported power output bit on the reg document?

I admit I thought all Facelift models were 131, so wondered if mine really was. Last night I checked and the reg doc claims it is - albeit in kWs.

no, i bought mg zt v5 shows 116, thought it was ok, got a synergy- big difference- drove a standard cdt rover 75 and felt it was as slow as, so believe my zt to be a 135

savvy · 23rd February 2010, 13:09

Hi all - first post so hello!

Just aquired a CDT with 154k miles on (although you'd never think it).
Is the 116 model and have been looking at either the xpart upgrade to keep things all OEM and proper or Rover Ron's Synergy box.

What route would most go down?

Do you "upgrade" the xpart kit yourself, and if so, how?

BigRuss · 23rd February 2010, 13:38

Hi Savvy and welcome.

The X-power upgrade has to be applied with a T4 either by an X-part centre or other specialist who has these facilities.

If I could have only one either the Synergy or the upgrade, then the Synergy gives the best value for the increase in power with the additional benefit of the mafam which will help if your Maf goes out of spec.

I'm greedy I have both. power output is now approx 155bhp with bags of torque.

If you want to keep things original then the upgrade is the one to go for.

Russ

savvy · 23rd February 2010, 13:45

Hi Russ - thanks.

Both would be ideal (but currently trying to source some meteor wheels as well!).

Car has just had a new maf and fancy something where I don't have to press buttons for settings etc.

Do xpart charge much to fit or is that part of the price you purchase it?

Jules · 23rd February 2010, 13:46

And the other question from me Russ is:
After the unlock codes have been loaded in, will subsequent service T4 sessions wipe the re map or not, as there's various rumours about that.

Also the Xpart upgrade is a ONCE only executable programme, even to the original purchaser, yes?

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Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	It's a Factory upgrade ECU remap from 116 BHP for older cars (difficult to go by Facelift/ MK1 as both body shapes were issued from the Factory with 116 0r 131 BHP during an overlap period circa 2003/4) It was generally thought that CDT's were 116 & CDTi's were 131 BHP but many owners have disproved this. My opinion is that there are 1000's of owners out there that don't know this upgrade exists. The body weight of these cars needs 131 BHP IMO and is a very worthwhile upgrade. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

23rd February 2010, 10:52	#23
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	That's just the issue Rob Many insurance companies don't differentiate/load premiums between a factory 116 and a 131 BHP It's an "invisible" difference between 2 Standard Cars that were on sale in MGR showrooms. The only difference was the date of issue and even that cannot be pinned down to a definite time. Members have proved the CDT or CDTi on the Reg document doesn't always mean the Power output which is what insurance companies data bases are going by. You may not need to be "under the radar" so to speak to have an upgrade but by all means tell your insurance and let us all know the outcome. There's plenty of other threads on this same subject. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block Last edited by Jules; 23rd February 2010 at 10:57..

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BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,405 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Hi Savvy and welcome. The X-power upgrade has to be applied with a T4 either by an X-part centre or other specialist who has these facilities. If I could have only one either the Synergy or the upgrade, then the Synergy gives the best value for the increase in power with the additional benefit of the mafam which will help if your Maf goes out of spec. I'm greedy I have both. power output is now approx 155bhp with bags of torque. If you want to keep things original then the upgrade is the one to go for. Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and 160bhp, Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

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Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	And the other question from me Russ is: After the unlock codes have been loaded in, will subsequent service T4 sessions wipe the re map or not, as there's various rumours about that. Also the Xpart upgrade is a ONCE only executable programme, even to the original purchaser, yes? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

23rd February 2010, 10:37	#22
Rob Bell Gets stuck in ZT-T CDTi + Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 561 Thanks: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	If I am feeling flush by the time of the next service interval, I might be tempted to do this (under the radar, if you know what I mean! "Expensive service this year dear...!" )

23rd February 2010, 11:28	#24
Departed 32016 This is my second home Rover 75 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 5,190 Thanks: 101 Thanked 257 Times in 145 Posts	for the sake of £200 + a t4 session, would you not be cheaper to get an indi to remap for the performance you are looking for, most offer 150 bhp certified for even the 116 model. this works out less than £250 from what i have seen

23rd February 2010, 13:09	#27
savvy Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fleet Posts: 162 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Hi all - first post so hello! Just aquired a CDT with 154k miles on (although you'd never think it). Is the 116 model and have been looking at either the xpart upgrade to keep things all OEM and proper or Rover Ron's Synergy box. What route would most go down? Do you "upgrade" the xpart kit yourself, and if so, how?

23rd February 2010, 13:45	#29
savvy Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fleet Posts: 162 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Hi Russ - thanks. Both would be ideal (but currently trying to source some meteor wheels as well!). Car has just had a new maf and fancy something where I don't have to press buttons for settings etc. Do xpart charge much to fit or is that part of the price you purchase it?