MG ZR 2.0L Diesels any good? - Page 2

Robson Rover Repair · 1st September 2013, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubbarelly

Wonder if they can be tuned like the 75 / ZT units on the T4?

You have no idea, SDi injectors, decat, remap and your looking at a solid 150 bhp all day long.

Hybrid injectors and hybrid turbos, 2.1 conversions and much much more is out there now.

Ive got a 25 and a 45 diesel now also!

E_T_V · 1st September 2013, 21:55

Might want to check out a site I run.

www.roverdiesel.co.uk

The engine is bullet proof. The bits attached to it less so. (fuel pump is the expensive one to sort if it goes).

Earlier 200/400/600 L series diesels are more reliable (as they have a more reliable pump). My 600 is now at something like 282k miles.

They are very tunable and my 600 isn't any slower than my 1.8T ZTT. 150bhp is regularly achieved from the 25/45/zr/zs's.

They are a little unrefined, but they are simple and reliable. The engine is decended from the old O series petrol via a number of other incarnations!

Robson Rover Repair · 1st September 2013, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by E_T_V

Might want to check out a site I run.

www.roverdiesel.co.uk

The engine is bullet proof. The bits attached to it less so. (fuel pump is the expensive one to sort if it goes).

Earlier 200/400/600 L series diesels are more reliable (as they have a more reliable pump). My 600 is now at something like 282k miles.

They are very tunable and my 600 isn't any slower than my 1.8T ZTT. 150bhp is regularly achieved from the 25/45/zr/zs's.

They are a little unrefined, but they are simple and reliable. The engine is decended from the old O series petrol via a number of other incarnations!

Use this site myself, good to be able to thank the owner in person!

yzf600r · 2nd September 2013, 05:19

Great little car the missus has one, only downside is everyone seems to want to race it, think its the spoiler.
As previous posters have said very reliable engines my dad had a 200 diesel and then a 400 diesel as taxis, the 200 had nearly 400k on if i remember correctly when he traded it.

rasa · 2nd September 2013, 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jubbarelly

As title.

Any one owned one of these, and were the engines any good?

Cheers
Jub

mine was tuned with sdi injectors, i think it developed an airlock and in turn overheated and bust the head gasket, the header tank caps are pressurised and need to be checked, regularly as this can cause over heating.

NigelOBB · 2nd September 2013, 05:54

It was developed by Rover from the Perkins Prima which was a cracking engine .. My 1st experience of it was in a hired 220 (r3) when they 1st came our was really impressed how quick it was.. apparently in their day they were only just behind the VW tdi unit fie performance and reliability.. If its what you want go for it

FLYING BANANA · 2nd September 2013, 07:24

We had the 220 SD for 9 years and never owed us a penny. And one of the nicest colours "Kingfisher Blue".

lovema75 · 2nd September 2013, 07:59

I had one recently in a 400. Not incredibly econonmical to be honest, about 40 average, so when a decent petrol can average the same there isnt really any economic benefit, especialy when diesel was dear than petrol for long enough.

Not the quickest or most refined but then neither is a VW TDi and no-one seems to mind. Cruises along with a nice purr.

The 400 had the VP30 pump fitted, pretty long lasting. The 45 has the same engine but with the VP37 pump, which doesnt seem to last as long. Its not the most refined engine, but if it really does sound like a tractor, then the pump solonoid has failed (known handily enough as "tractoring...") - its tricky but possible to replace this without removing the pump.

Just like the petrol engines, you need to remember the belts! There are 2 of them - one for the pump, if this fails the engine will stop without damage. If the timing belt goes it most certainly will not, a replacement head will be required, so if you dont know when it was last done, do it asap.

The L series is a very cool running engine, thus in the winter the heater is rubbish unless you are doing a long journey!

Instant starting hot or cold is pretty much guarenteed, difficult starting is almost always due to injection timing being out.

jubbarelly · 2nd September 2013, 13:02

From all the comments then, they sound like a descent little car.

Off to do some searching me thinks

Robson Rover Repair · 2nd September 2013, 13:36

Arch and sill rust on them is the issue, try and find a 115 engine with rear discs

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E_T_V Loves to post MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 423 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Might want to check out a site I run. www.roverdiesel.co.uk The engine is bullet proof. The bits attached to it less so. (fuel pump is the expensive one to sort if it goes). Earlier 200/400/600 L series diesels are more reliable (as they have a more reliable pump). My 600 is now at something like 282k miles. They are very tunable and my 600 isn't any slower than my 1.8T ZTT. 150bhp is regularly achieved from the 25/45/zr/zs's. They are a little unrefined, but they are simple and reliable. The engine is decended from the old O series petrol via a number of other incarnations!

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yzf600r Loves to post MG ZT cdti Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: sheffield Posts: 251 Thanks: 25 Thanked 22 Times in 21 Posts	Great little car the missus has one, only downside is everyone seems to want to race it, think its the spoiler. As previous posters have said very reliable engines my dad had a 200 diesel and then a 400 diesel as taxis, the 200 had nearly 400k on if i remember correctly when he traded it.

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lovema75 This is my second home 75 Tourer CDT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Enfield Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 63 Thanked 431 Times in 237 Posts	I had one recently in a 400. Not incredibly econonmical to be honest, about 40 average, so when a decent petrol can average the same there isnt really any economic benefit, especialy when diesel was dear than petrol for long enough. Not the quickest or most refined but then neither is a VW TDi and no-one seems to mind. Cruises along with a nice purr. The 400 had the VP30 pump fitted, pretty long lasting. The 45 has the same engine but with the VP37 pump, which doesnt seem to last as long. Its not the most refined engine, but if it really does sound like a tractor, then the pump solonoid has failed (known handily enough as "tractoring...") - its tricky but possible to replace this without removing the pump. Just like the petrol engines, you need to remember the belts! There are 2 of them - one for the pump, if this fails the engine will stop without damage. If the timing belt goes it most certainly will not, a replacement head will be required, so if you dont know when it was last done, do it asap. The L series is a very cool running engine, thus in the winter the heater is rubbish unless you are doing a long journey! Instant starting hot or cold is pretty much guarenteed, difficult starting is almost always due to injection timing being out.

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