Modern push button start cars

macafee2 · 27th January 2019, 22:58

oh wow, push button. Had that on my motor bike 30 years ago.

Get home, no light about except star light, its pitch black and where are the effing car keys?
Not in my pockets, not in the door pockets not in the wife's pockets. GGGGRRRRRRRRR.

Use the light from a phone to search the car and after a few minutes, found them down the side of a seat next to centre console, never have this problem with good old ignition key start

macafee2

MSS · 28th January 2019, 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2

oh wow, push button. Had that on my motor bike 30 years ago.

Get home, no light about except start light, its pitch black and where are the effing car keys?
Not in my pockets, not in the door pockets not in the wife's pockets. GGGGRRRRRRRRR.

Use the light from a phone to search the car and after a few minutes, found them down the side of a seat next to centre console, never have this problem with good old ignition key start

macafee2

We have it on our Twintop and I quite like it. Flared trousers are also coming back in fashion!

topman · 28th January 2019, 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2

oh wow, push button. Had that on my motor bike 30 years ago.

Get home, no light about except start light, its pitch black and where are the effing car keys?
Not in my pockets, not in the door pockets not in the wife's pockets. GGGGRRRRRRRRR.

Use the light from a phone to search the car and after a few minutes, found them down the side of a seat next to centre console, never have this problem with good old ignition key start

macafee2

Sounds like you need pockets with zips

Dallas · 28th January 2019, 09:41

I've been driving a Nissan Qashqai and I hate it, one of many reasons is the push button start and no keys at all. Just a silly smart remote fob that you must leave in the car, but where do you leave it?

It just feels very odd not to have a physical key in the ignition, its too easy to lose the dam thing. My brain cannot recognise the fob is of importance, so your mind keeps wondering what, where, and how to start the dam car.

chillyphil · 28th January 2019, 10:05

The wife has this push button system on her Citroen ds5.
I quite like it, but unsure about the security issued.

However, having an old Mark 1 brain, I have found myself on two occasions touching the door handle on the MG, and getting very annoyed when it wouldn't open!!!

SCP440 · 28th January 2019, 16:55

A workmate with a Renault with push button start had a problem, he was driving on the motorway when the fly by wire jammed in full throttle. He pulled over and the engine would not switch off as the message centre kept telling him to ''reduce revs before switching off engine''

After a couple of mins the engine destroyed it self as it was bouncing off the rev limiter, luckily the car was still under warranty and was towed away to the dealer, the car was returned within 48 hours with a new engine fitted, apparently ''this happens a lot'' so they keep engines in stock

This technology is great when it is working as it should but its like electric handbrakes complication for the sake of complication in my view.

You are very unlikely to see any modern cars still on the road in 25 years because of these gadgets but then this is probably the plan.

gadget1960 · 28th January 2019, 17:15

My wife has it on her Astra twintop, causes a bit of confusion when she takes the 75 to work occasionally.
I remember having a push start many years ago on a mini I had, it was a rubber covered button mounted in the centre tunnel on the floor.

gadget1960 · 28th January 2019, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCP440

A workmate with a Renault with push button start had a problem, he was driving on the motorway when the fly by wire jammed in full throttle. He pulled over and the engine would not switch off as the message centre kept telling him to ''reduce revs before switching off engine''

After a couple of mins the engine destroyed it self as it was bouncing off the rev limiter, luckily the car was still under warranty and was towed away to the dealer, the car was returned within 48 hours with a new engine fitted, apparently ''this happens a lot'' so they keep engines in stock

This technology is great when it is working as it should but its like electric handbrakes complication for the sake of complication in my view.

You are very unlikely to see any modern cars still on the road in 25 years because of these gadgets but then this is probably the plan.

Spot on, it's like everyone is trying to re-invent the wheel ! and trying to boost sales of what is basically a boring car by loading it with gizmo's and gimmicks like ... push start, stop start, built in wifi, tyre pressure monitors, and so on.

topman · 28th January 2019, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCP440

This technology is great when it is working as it should but its like electric handbrakes complication for the sake of complication in my view.

People probably said that when the starting handle disappeared

MSS · 28th January 2019, 17:34

I have to say that LCD panels to replace all those nice twiddly buttons and switches is the worst thing to have happened to the motor car.

I hate the things, especially when people leave their grubby fingermarks on them.

27th January 2019, 22:58	#1
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,904 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Modern push button start cars oh wow, push button. Had that on my motor bike 30 years ago. Get home, no light about except star light, its pitch black and where are the effing car keys? Not in my pockets, not in the door pockets not in the wife's pockets. GGGGRRRRRRRRR. Use the light from a phone to search the car and after a few minutes, found them down the side of a seat next to centre console, never have this problem with good old ignition key start macafee2 Last edited by macafee2; 28th January 2019 at 07:47.. Reason: star light not start light

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28th January 2019, 09:41	#4
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	I've been driving a Nissan Qashqai and I hate it, one of many reasons is the push button start and no keys at all. Just a silly smart remote fob that you must leave in the car, but where do you leave it? It just feels very odd not to have a physical key in the ignition, its too easy to lose the dam thing. My brain cannot recognise the fob is of importance, so your mind keeps wondering what, where, and how to start the dam car.

28th January 2019, 10:05	#5
chillyphil Gets stuck in MGZT-T Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Paignton Posts: 618 Thanks: 278 Thanked 90 Times in 72 Posts	The wife has this push button system on her Citroen ds5. I quite like it, but unsure about the security issued. However, having an old Mark 1 brain, I have found myself on two occasions touching the door handle on the MG, and getting very annoyed when it wouldn't open!!!

28th January 2019, 16:55	#6
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	A workmate with a Renault with push button start had a problem, he was driving on the motorway when the fly by wire jammed in full throttle. He pulled over and the engine would not switch off as the message centre kept telling him to ''reduce revs before switching off engine'' After a couple of mins the engine destroyed it self as it was bouncing off the rev limiter, luckily the car was still under warranty and was towed away to the dealer, the car was returned within 48 hours with a new engine fitted, apparently ''this happens a lot'' so they keep engines in stock This technology is great when it is working as it should but its like electric handbrakes complication for the sake of complication in my view. You are very unlikely to see any modern cars still on the road in 25 years because of these gadgets but then this is probably the plan.

28th January 2019, 17:15	#7
gadget1960 Gets stuck in Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Maxton, Dover Posts: 519 Thanks: 183 Thanked 132 Times in 89 Posts	My wife has it on her Astra twintop, causes a bit of confusion when she takes the 75 to work occasionally. I remember having a push start many years ago on a mini I had, it was a rubber covered button mounted in the centre tunnel on the floor.

28th January 2019, 17:34	#10
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,083 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	I have to say that LCD panels to replace all those nice twiddly buttons and switches is the worst thing to have happened to the motor car. I hate the things, especially when people leave their grubby fingermarks on them.