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Old 16th March 2020, 08:36   #351
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Yes I did and noted that the researchers did have their own charge method but the degradation still showed a drop to 80% after 36 charging cycles. As of now the industry standard fast chargers as presently rolled out in California, can damage the batteries.

Your insults do not faze me at all, it merely shows you for what you are.
I just like facts, and people not paraphrasing to try and prove their argument.

IMHO i think its well known to EV owners that its bad to fast charge your car on a regular basis, although modern EVs adjust the charging to suit the batteries (as per normal batteries smart chargers).

But you must agree, that a research paper, written to prove an issue then for author to advise they have the magical cure seems a bit suspect?

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Old 16th March 2020, 08:44   #352
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Hi. Millennial Lefty snowflake, as you wish to call yourself, the facts are the facts. And the fact is that EVs as they seem to be called, are another phase (fad) in the life of the movement for the masses. Trillions of £s are being invested, and made, out of what in my opinion, and my opinion alone, is just another way of making the masses pay through the nose to be independent of movement. We are being herded in the normal way, by people in power, who are normally loaded, with plenty of bull around a subject that really is straight forward. The sooner people realise what is going on.the better. All that will happen is that some other power will be used to get you to change from your normal habits. It is called, standing on one leg? Keep em standing on one leg, and it’s easy to push them in the direction you want them to go. It is a bit like what I was taught when I was 19 years old:- A person with no body balance has no strength. A bit like the old saying of shovel and manure. Ramble over, and sorry if it offends some people, but seen it and heard it all many times over.
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You got me there, I cant argue with facts being born in 1985 and being a paid up member of the SSP (The Scottish Socialist Party)!

My opinion is EVs are here to stay, only the batteries are holding them back, its amazing what has been done with ICE cars, but the future is electric.

But as a Millennial Lefty snowflake I can advise you that nothing your wrote caused offence, sleep easy, and I will let the rest of my comrades know, your a good guy!

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Old 16th March 2020, 08:48   #353
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I think when it comes to Mr Dyson, he knew he was to late to the party to make money on it. He never compete with MG, let alone Tesla, but then that just how I have read the facts and is my personal opinion.

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Old 16th March 2020, 08:59   #354
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My opinion is EVs are here to stay, only the batteries are holding them back, its amazing what has been done with ICE cars, but the future is electric.

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I think you are right, but batteries have been holding electric cars back for well over 100 years.

Shame they didn't have forums back in the day when steam was giving way to petrol - I'm sure a Stanley Steam car forum would have been full of nay sayers for the new ICE engines for a multitude of reasons!
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I think that EVs are here to stay. Nothing really wrong with them as such. But just one thing is and will hold them back..........electricity.It comes down to knowledge, of electricity. Perpetual motion:- I think we all know there is no such thing, do we not? Electricity is of great benefit to man, Sorry and woman. The point I am getting at is this. Electricity has to be created, alongside anything that has to use it. Stay with me.You can only use electricity once. It can only be used once, then it has gone.You can not recycle it. Therefore, the generation of it must be continuous. It already is continuous, but to cope with all the EVs that are forecast to be produced in the future, where is all this electricity going to come from? We already have a gross deficit of production capacity for electricity in this country and have to import it from different countries, France being the main supplier, along with Norway and Holland I think it is? If every country pushes EVs, they will have less capacity to sell electric to ourselves, so where does it come from? Answers on the back of a microdot please to:- HMG, 10 Downing Street..
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Old 16th March 2020, 10:34   #356
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I think that EVs are here to stay. Nothing really wrong with them as such. But just one thing is and will hold them back..........electricity.It comes down to knowledge, of electricity. Perpetual motion:- I think we all know there is no such thing, do we not? Electricity is of great benefit to man, Sorry and woman. The point I am getting at is this. Electricity has to be created, alongside anything that has to use it. Stay with me.You can only use electricity once. It can only be used once, then it has gone.You can not recycle it. Therefore, the generation of it must be continuous. It already is continuous, but to cope with all the EVs that are forecast to be produced in the future, where is all this electricity going to come from? We already have a gross deficit of production capacity for electricity in this country and have to import it from different countries, France being the main supplier, along with Norway and Holland I think it is? If every country pushes EVs, they will have less capacity to sell electric to ourselves, so where does it come from? Answers on the back of a microdot please to:- HMG, 10 Downing Street..
Self charging has already happened.
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France took a reasoned approach to Nuclear power and went ahead and I think? generate 70% of their requirements. We caved in to the anti-nuclear lobbists etc and lost any advantage of being the leader by doing so. Our nuclear industry and staff whithered away. And many of those who were anti and their organisations now talk of a mixed power policy. hypocrites??? No just stupid "I know best" bu--ers. Chris.S.
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France took a reasoned approach to Nuclear power and went ahead and I think? generate 70% of their requirements. We caved in to the anti-nuclear lobbists etc and lost any advantage of being the leader by doing so. Our nuclear industry and staff whithered away. And many of those who were anti and their organisations now talk of a mixed power policy. hypocrites??? No just stupid "I know best" bu--ers. Chris.S.
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The problem Nuclear is too expensive, and can no longer compete with Gas / renewables. Below from the attached link is a good example (although its american, there are more ahead in Nuclear energy than us.)

The levelized cost of nuclear power is relatively high compared to other energy sources: the minimum cost per megawatt hour to build a new nuclear plant is $112, compared to $46 for utility-scale solar, $42 for combined cycle gas, and $30 for wind. Nuclear power is only able to remain viable in power markets due to subsidies. Capital costs to build nuclear plants can run into the tens of billions of dollars, and are much more expensive compared to wind, solar and gas plants. Continued government support for building new plants and operating existing ones is a key factor in maintaining the U.S. nuclear industry.

https://climatenexus.org/climate-new...as-renewables/

There is also the new Russian reactors in Turkey at a cost of 22 billion!

https://www.reuters.com/article/rosa...-idUSL5N25X42Y


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Old 24th March 2020, 16:19   #359
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Some good news for the Midlands today! JLR are investing £1billion in it's Castle Bromwich plant for the production of electric vehicles. https://www.electrive.com/2020/03/23...bility-centre/
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I've decided my next car is either going to be a pre-war Morris 8 or a Nissan Leaf. All depends on how long the 75 keeps going. If it lasts till I retire I'll get the Morris. If not I'll go electric. I'm not bothered about global warming - mostly because most people seem to be buying big fat gas guzzlers so me saving 1000 gallons a year against the billions they use seems a tadge futile. But petrol is a finite resource, I cant see it doing anything other than going up in price over the next five years, and I can save enough money to buy a tidy motorbike, or a fun holiday, or just a shed load of nights out with the missus just by making by next motor electric rather than gas-guzzling.
Quick update - I bought the Morris 8 :¬)
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