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Old 4th March 2020, 16:15   #11
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I cannot agree it would not make a difference. Surly any reduction in harmful emissions makes a difference, even if so slight, that all it does is to slow down the coming of the end result

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Would make a difference to air pollution in our Towns and Cities but I doubt it would make any difference to the world.

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Old 4th March 2020, 16:26   #12
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There is currently a fossil fuel survey on line regarding the availability of petrol and diesel, although only Classic Car Weekly has pointed it out! The problem with the Internet is that lawmakers can get away with consultations because whilst they may be available on the web, what chance has anyone of finding where they are, or when they cease!

The 2 links given are:-
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Old 4th March 2020, 16:30   #13
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My wife's Rover 25, my MGZS both have plastic fuel injectors.
I believe they will both suffer.
I have a classic Mini, plastic float in the carb, not sure what I'm going to be able to do with that.
Plus I already end up changing the fuel line every two years on average because the rubber cracks.

I'm not a happy bunny. E85 or higher will effectively scrap my fleet off.
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Old 4th March 2020, 16:51   #14
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My wife's Rover 25, my MGZS both have plastic fuel injectors.
I believe they will both suffer.
I have a classic Mini, plastic float in the carb, not sure what I'm going to be able to do with that.
Plus I already end up changing the fuel line every two years on average because the rubber cracks.

I'm not a happy bunny. E85 or higher will effectively scrap my fleet off.
This is what Footman James are saying.
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My wife's Rover 25, my MGZS both have plastic fuel injectors.
I believe they will both suffer.
I have a classic Mini, plastic float in the carb, not sure what I'm going to be able to do with that.
Plus I already end up changing the fuel line every two years on average because the rubber cracks.

I'm not a happy bunny. E85 or higher will effectively scrap my fleet off.
Early SU carbs had brass floats. They are still available.

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Old 4th March 2020, 22:24   #16
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OK so can folks please explain who is affected by this the problem and what are the options?


I have a 2002 plate KV6. Will I roger it if I run on E10 regular unleaded, and what would I have to have done to it, and what would it cost, for me to make it compatible?


Supplementary question - will premium fuel also become E10 or just economy? I generally use Esso or Shell (Vpower) premium as the better economy offsets the higher pump price so that overall cost per mile is about equal but with the benefit of a cleaner fuel. If premium fuel isn't going to have ethanol added maybe we just need to accept that we will have to get used to spending more at the pump when we need to fill up, but we will refill less frequently as we will get better economy, in which case what's the problem?
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OK so can folks please explain who is affected by this the problem and what are the options?


I have a 2002 plate KV6. Will I roger it if I run on E10 regular unleaded, and what would I have to have done to it, and what would it cost, for me to make it compatible?


Supplementary question - will premium fuel also become E10 or just economy? I generally use Esso or Shell (Vpower) premium as the better economy offsets the higher pump price so that overall cost per mile is about equal but with the benefit of a cleaner fuel. If premium fuel isn't going to have ethanol added maybe we just need to accept that we will have to get used to spending more at the pump when we need to fill up, but we will refill less frequently as we will get better economy, in which case what's the problem?
Anyone whose car has a carburetor and many that had issues with running on unleaded.

I expect Rover's petrol engines will be okay.

However as to whether you will get more to the gallon is unknown.

If your car was built from 2011 then yes you will benefit but the older cars I doubt it.
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Old 5th March 2020, 17:52   #18
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If your car was built from 2011 then yes you will benefit but the older cars I doubt it.

Does anyone have a Rover built in or after 2011?
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Benefit?

With my experience of ethernol fuels on my old motorbikes, it's a real PITA.

And it evaporates at an alarming rate if you don't use it relatively quickly.
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I totally agree with Mike.

It affects more modern machines too, with plastic fuel tanks.
I have a Triumph 955i which I only use ethanol free petrol in, otherwise it would end up looking like this



And that is at the current 5%

A friend of mine has a lovely Bimota, that is until the tank was attacked by ethanol causing it to swell up and split the paint.

Horrible stuff!
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