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22nd September 2014, 19:40 | #11 | |
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22nd September 2014, 19:41 | #12 |
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my advice is , don't speed to start with
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22nd September 2014, 19:41 | #13 |
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I dont think speed awareness courses are available up here in Scotland instead of the points and fines. Never heard of someone getting one up here.
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22nd September 2014, 19:57 | #14 |
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It would be interesting to see the photo. If there's a vehicle behind you, its possible that the device used (LTI 20/20 or similar) has registered its speed rather than yours - the beam generated 'spreads', the greater the distance you were caught at, the wider the beam....not a problem if you're the only vehicle in view (ignore ones going in the opposite direction btw), but something sitting/closing in behind you could certainly have been clocked rather than you.
I'm not sure how it works in Scotland, and I've been out of the loop for a year or two now, but before you'd ever be allowed to see the photo, you'd have to return the NOIP declaring yourself the rider.....so best wait a while first, as previously suggested! Bear in mind though that you'll not be able to contest anything until you've said 'yes, it was me'! Pete
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If for some reason you cannot identify or decide who the driver was you must let them know who had access to the vehicle and why it is impossible to tell (companies can't use that excuse, the loophole is plugged for them). If I remember rightly Scottish law requires all statements to be corroborated, is that not true for speeding? |
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Tell them you had SatNav on and it's more reliable than speed cameras.
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23rd September 2014, 06:03 | #17 |
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Do not tell them you have a sat nav.
I keep my maps updated all the time and driving the vehicles i do every day i am constantly seeing speed discrepancies from TRUE road speeds compared to satnav. At the end of the day you should have been observing the road and speed signs and not the satnav. Satnavs are good for telling you the speed your doing but are not so good with the latest road speeds, our council's are changing road signs left right and centre and 3 years down the line the satnav's have not caught up. I am constantly updating tomtom with road changes hoping they will be on the next update but it seems to take longer than i would like. |
23rd September 2014, 06:42 | #18 |
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Ask for the photo to help you to identify the driver. Then if there is nothing else ninth e picture or no obvious reason why it might be wrong on the speed measured accept the fine &points. If contested the fine & costs will shoot up and you are likely to get more points as well. Most insurance co won't up your premiums for a single speed offence,so is it really worth the fight?
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Any chance of a small add in the personals of local newspaper to try and see if others have been "caught" as you have?
What about the newspaper editor? give him a call explain how notorious that stretch of road is for getting fines and what you suspect, it`s a long shot but you never know. Good luck. Ken. |
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A Notice of Intended Prosecution is just that - a notice - s.1 Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988. The requirement to name the driver is a different legal matter - s.172, Road Traffic Act 1988, although it may be on the same piece of paper. The service of a NIP (late or other problem) does not affect the s.172 requirement. It is only after a 'not guilty' plea is taken at court that the prosecution discloses their evidence, not before a plea. |
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