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Old 25th January 2023, 09:36   #11
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And the last time you ever heard that someone was stopped and fined for driving with fog lights on when it was not foggy?
Stopped 2022. Stopped and fined 2019 (other issues, were discovered though).

Personally ,1995. Stopped and told to switch them off. But that was pre ceasefire/GFA.

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Old 25th January 2023, 12:18   #12
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Because the standard 75 headlights are so poor I usually run with the front spot/fog lights on. However, finding the correct switch in the dark is a pain, usually accidently turn on the rear fogs or alter the dash illumination intensity.
Is it possible using a T4 to set it so the front spot lights come on automatically with the dipped headlights? If done is it legal and still acceptable for the mot?
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Mine are yellow 💛 as an aside, I wired mine to a drl kit to come on with ignition. A police lady very kindly stopped me and told me, quite nicely, to get them off 😎

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Well, on cars DRL's should not be lit with the headlights on*. They must go off. The eurobox I've got now uses the same lights for DRL's and sidelights, how? by dimming them 50% (and that's ok legally).


* N.B. on motorcycles this does not apply allowed to have DRL's on with headlights on, probably because you'll have trouble finding a modern motorcycle with a switch to turn the headlights off!
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Old 25th January 2023, 12:57   #13
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Well, on cars DRL's should not be lit with the headlights on*. They must go off. The eurobox I've got now uses the same lights for DRL's and sidelights, how? by dimming them 50% (and that's ok legally).


* N.B. on motorcycles this does not apply allowed to have DRL's on with headlights on, probably because you'll have trouble finding a modern motorcycle with a switch to turn the headlights off!
BMW also use the Halos as DRL and dim them when the headlights are on.
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Personally I've never found fog-lights on any car I've ever driven to be of any use whatsoever - apart from looking, well, flash from the outside.
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Personally I've never found fog-lights on any car I've ever driven to be of any use whatsoever - apart from looking, well, flash from the outside.


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Personally I've never found fog-lights on any car I've ever driven to be of any use whatsoever - apart from looking, well, flash from the outside.
I use them at night on campsites, instead of headlights so not to disturb other campers

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Old 26th January 2023, 16:01   #17
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Personally I've never found fog-lights on any car I've ever driven to be of any use whatsoever - apart from looking, well, flash from the outside.
Yep agree with this. While foglights may not point up they are bright lights at the front of the vehicle which will hinder an oncoming drivers view compared to running on dipped beam. Also the area they illuminate isn't where you would be looking during driving in normal (not foggy conditions) as you should be looking well up the road past where the fogs illuminate.
A decent bulb upgrade would help, or if they are particularly old they might just need changing. You could well notice a good difference doing that and as others have said check your lenses and headlight glass/plastic is in good clear condition as well as your reflectors and alignment
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Old 26th January 2023, 16:11   #18
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Yellow with halogen or led yellow bulb? How did you get them to work as a DRL? I assume that working as DRL they are white?
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Old 26th January 2023, 19:02   #19
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Yellow with halogen or led yellow bulb? How did you get them to work as a DRL? I assume that working as DRL they are white?
If you're asking me Julio, white leds with a DRL switch, needed to turn on with ignition & off when headlights come on. Yellow fogs are a tint with Osram Fogbreaker bulbs.
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Old 27th January 2023, 18:45   #20
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Yep agree with this. While foglights may not point up they are bright lights at the front of the vehicle which will hinder an oncoming drivers view compared to running on dipped beam. Also the area they illuminate isn't where you would be looking during driving in normal (not foggy conditions) as you should be looking well up the road past where the fogs illuminate.
A decent bulb upgrade would help, or if they are particularly old they might just need changing. You could well notice a good difference doing that and as others have said check your lenses and headlight glass/plastic is in good clear condition as well as your reflectors and alignment

I use the so-called fog lights on unlit rural roads to pick out the verge, essential to see how close to get when passing oncoming traffic.
With respect to dazzle, ordinary LED headlights on more modern cars are far more of a problem and another reason why being able to see the nearside verge is so important.
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