Back to basics... - Page 4

Mike Noc · 2nd September 2019, 20:30

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Originally Posted by trikey

Pah! If you cant set up a set of points by eye there's no hope.

Had a Triumph Stag back in the day and struggled to get to the bottom of a miss-fire. Reset the points God knows how many times and then realised there was a second set beneath the top ones as they had one set for each bank.

Dallas · 2nd September 2019, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Had a Triumph Stag back in the day and struggled to get to the bottom of a miss-fire. Reset the points God knows how many times and then realised there was a second set beneath the top ones as they had one set for each bank.

Lol, I bet that was a eureka moment when you discovered the second set?

Comfortably Numb · 3rd September 2019, 00:34

Think about the mileages you got out of old, carburettor engines. 100,000 miles was a rarity without re-shelling, reboring etc. And how often did you have to check, clean or adjust plugs, points, tappets and carb? But they were easy enough jobs, which you got good at with regular practice, and you largely relied on your own sensors, - eyes, ears and nose - to get the settings right. Now, most parts aren't fixable, or adjustable, you just replace them (if you can work out what isn't working without a diagnostic computer). Designers certainly don't consider the DIY mechanic these days, and service/repair costs, although they come at much higher intervals, also act as a cynical incentive for you to ditch your old car for a fully warrantied new one. Designers also make some huge design errors (or are they?) - critical and complex electronics put in vulnerable places (plenum drain, anyone?) But if everything is well designed and well engineered, you can get a very reliable and very economical car. Doesn't mean you're going to love it, though!

NewGuyPete · 3rd September 2019, 04:42

As far as I can remember, you did,nt HAVE to change the parts, it became a Sunday morning ritual,needed or not needed.

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3rd September 2019, 00:34	#33
Comfortably Numb Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Penrith Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 165 Thanked 303 Times in 241 Posts	Think about the mileages you got out of old, carburettor engines. 100,000 miles was a rarity without re-shelling, reboring etc. And how often did you have to check, clean or adjust plugs, points, tappets and carb? But they were easy enough jobs, which you got good at with regular practice, and you largely relied on your own sensors, - eyes, ears and nose - to get the settings right. Now, most parts aren't fixable, or adjustable, you just replace them (if you can work out what isn't working without a diagnostic computer). Designers certainly don't consider the DIY mechanic these days, and service/repair costs, although they come at much higher intervals, also act as a cynical incentive for you to ditch your old car for a fully warrantied new one. Designers also make some huge design errors (or are they?) - critical and complex electronics put in vulnerable places (plenum drain, anyone?) But if everything is well designed and well engineered, you can get a very reliable and very economical car. Doesn't mean you're going to love it, though!

3rd September 2019, 04:42	#34
NewGuyPete Loves to post MG-ZT 260 V8 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 297 Thanks: 25 Thanked 110 Times in 88 Posts	As far as I can remember, you did,nt HAVE to change the parts, it became a Sunday morning ritual,needed or not needed.