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Old 5th July 2014, 21:25   #21
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Not only are most regular jacks incapable of lifting the car high enough in a safe way for axle stands, there appears to be little consensus as to exactly where to place the stands once the car is lifted, always use a solid flat piece of wood on top of the lifting cup to give good grip as well as to even out the force, and use a good quality semi pro jack at least a 2 ton one, 2,5 to 3 is better, remember our cars a heavy.
Good advice!

There are several options for placing the stands, I remember seeing a diagram of where they can be safely placed, depending on where on the underside you are planning to work, but there are several other reinforced areas not noted on the diagram. The existing two at each side plastic jacking pads are an obvious place, which I frequently use, but I add something between the stand and what ever I am supporting, to act as a cushion.

When lifting on a jack, either the car should be free to move, or the jack should be on a flat enough surface to allow it to move - always one or the other, otherwise as the jack rises the lifting cup can be forced off the point you are jacking.

With a decent high lift wide based jack, you can quite safely lift the entire front by placing the jack under the central steel loop below the subframe. This can be seen poking out below the engine cover.

At the rear is a similar bracket, under the wheel well, but occupied as a hard point for a tow bar if fitted. I use the under side of the tow bar centre to lift the rear.
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Old 5th July 2014, 21:26   #22
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Another vote for Sealey

I got 2 of these..... on ebay

Avoid the Halfords deal, not great quality and don't lift high enough
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Another vote for Sealey

I got 2 of these..... on ebay

Avoid the Halfords deal, not great quality and don't lift high enough
Too be honest, the fact that you can lift those with one hand via a plastic handle and the small base, would put me off. My own jack is not something you would want to attempt to lift off the ground, it is just far too heavy.
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Old 5th July 2014, 22:01   #24
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Too be honest, the fact that you can lift those with one hand via a plastic handle and the small base, would put me off. My own jack is not something you would want to attempt to lift off the ground, it is just far too heavy.
If you are referring to the sealey you obviously never saw one of them, there is no plastic handle on them and they are 20kg+ in weight so one hand lifting is a good lift.....trust me, they are solid, pic is different to the one I got but same model number (I think, gonna have to check that)

If you meant the Halfords one then yes, cheap tat but handy to carry in boot for wheel changing but nothing more serious

update- wrong model number, this is the correct one here

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If you are referring to the sealey you obviously never saw one of them, there is no plastic handle on them and they are 20kg+ in weight so one hand lifting is a good lift.....trust me, they are solid, pic is different to the one I got but same model number (I think, gonna have to check that)

If you meant the Halfords one then yes, cheap tat but handy to carry in boot for wheel changing but nothing more serious

update- wrong model number, this is the correct one here

Not a trolley jack but gets the car up enough to get axle stands in if you want, then let the ramp down again if you need to take the wheel off

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I have a Sealy 1025HL as in some of the above posts and a Sealey 1153CX. Both are robust pieces of kit and more than aedquate for our cars, although the former is a little more useful due to the extra lift.

The 1025HL came 3rd in the Autoexpress 2012 jack tests.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accesso.../sealey-1025hl


I do howver fancy the CJ Auto's adjustable ramps and have been thinking about getting some for a while.

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If you are referring to the sealey you obviously never saw one of them, there is no plastic handle on them and they are 20kg+ in weight so one hand lifting is a good lift.....trust me, they are solid, pic is different to the one I got but same model number (I think, gonna have to check that)

If you meant the Halfords one then yes, cheap tat but handy to carry in boot for wheel changing but nothing more serious

update- wrong model number, this is the correct one here
Yes, I was referring to that Sealey - Mine at 470 is a bit shorter on lift than I would like, that particular model at 435mm will be even worse and less than half the weight of mine. Weight and base size make for a stable garage jack. Small and light is good for portability.

Were I looking to buy one now, I would be looking for something over 500mm lift.
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Not a trolley jack but gets the car up enough to get axle stands in if you want, then let the ramp down again if you need to take the wheel off

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I'd have a air spanner on them to wind them up.
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I'd have a air spanner on them to wind them up.
Yes, that would be a good addition. Cj autos do another version of these ramps with a hydraulic pump which would make it easier, but it added a lot to the cost. they take quite a bit of winding up, but once up you do feel very secure underneath.
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