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Old 11th February 2019, 07:14   #41
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Yes, because turbo diesel engines like no oil changes .

Yeh, apparently they need very little attention and go on forever.
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Old 11th February 2019, 13:40   #42
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Lol well like I said the poop V6 auto power is NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- for an V6 it's actually embarrassing.
Even though the one on drive is back up car is in mint condition it's always be pooop looks nice don't get me wrong drive is very nice..... power is wet farts lol
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Old 11th February 2019, 17:54   #43
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ZT 1.8 turbo standard at 160bhp can be taken up to 200bhp by Kmaps.
Which is what i did recently - and it makes a difference - the Turbo 160 was always nippy - but now she flies remapped to 200 bhp.
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Old 11th February 2019, 17:56   #44
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Which is what i did recently - and it makes a difference - the Turbo 160 was always nippy - but now she flies remapped to 200 bhp.
In conversation with Kmaps they mentioned they can now get a Turbo 160 upto 275 BHP - and of course this requires ancilliary work on the engine and brakes etc.
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Old 11th February 2019, 19:46   #45
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Yeh, apparently they need very little attention and go on forever.
Very, very true. Mine. 12 years ownership with three bulbs blown.

Never put one drop of water in it in those 12 years. That's right, NONE.

Totally reliable. 50 mpg average during the year.

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Old 11th February 2019, 20:11   #46
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Very, very true. Mine. 12 years ownership with three bulbs blown.

Never put one drop of water in it in those 12 years. That's right, NONE.

Totally reliable. 50 mpg average during the year.

MOT. First time every time. What a car.-

Twelve years - now that is impressive. My windscreen washer requires topping up a least once a year.

Ok - I give in - diesels are better than petrols - because the petrols need oil changes and water in the windscreen washer.
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Old 11th February 2019, 23:10   #47
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...but having had 5 V6 2.5's, I'm a big fan of them.

Marinabrian is perfectly right in his view of the engine, they are poor in terms of output and performance, and some of the maintenance is knuckle scraping.

But for me, it's all about refinement - on song, the KV6 is a silken jewel, and with regular maintenance is perfectly reliable - one of mine covered nearly 190000 miles. I never had any overheating issues or head gasket problems. I covered thousands of delicious miles, with surprising economy at times - 531 miles in one tank in one manual car! But a manual V6 75 is just wrong, they really need the automatic gearbox. And the engine is quick enough for me, since I'm no Stirling Moss.

Perhaps I was just fortunate with all mine.

As for the diesel, well the one I had is still running with its custodian at 210000 miles, so I suppose it's a good engine, but after creamy V6 ingulgence, a clattery tractor just doesn't cut it for me!

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Old 11th February 2019, 23:35   #48
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Lots of perfectly valid opinions here. I own a couple of Volvo 850 T5s, a manual and an auto. Well maintained, the 5 cylinder 2.3 Turbo petrol engine is super refined and blisteringly fast, even in standard form. They are also far better designed and built than any 75 or ZT.

But....... I still love my 75. It's a truly great car with a character all of it's own.

In my opinion:

V6: Wouldn't have it in a gift. I've owned 3 and it is possibly one of the worst designed V6 engines ever made. The 2.0 KV6 is totally pointless, the 2.5 KV6 is equally pointless but thirstier. A genuinely horrible piece of design, it does nothing well, apart from make a nice noise, and that's purely by accident. This is also subjective, because we're all used to hearing buzzy little 4 cylinder engines in this country.

K4 1.8: Underpowered in NA form, and not reliable enough in any form. The 1.8T at 160bhp standard has enough performance to haul such a heavy car. Remapped it could be mildly entertaining but still nothing to write home about. More developed engines of the same vintage from other manufacturers are far better, more powerful, and more reliable. Whoever designed the cooling system and the pressure release thermostat probably spent a great deal of their youth taking illicit substances, and this is the result. Don't take drugs kids!

M47R 2.0 CDT: Horribly unrefined compared to any modern petrol engine. Suffers from poor clutch design and from the above-mentioned connoisseur of hallucinogenic substances who was likely also responsible for putting the ECU in a swimming pool, opening the roof and then sealing the bottom up. Mental PCV system a'la BMW, but at least they saw fit to modify the filter, and then not tell Rover about it. Remapped, they are torquey, quite nippy, and still very frugal. In fact they are insanely frugal for such a large car, unless coupled with an automatic gearbox; In this case, see KV6.

The long and short of it is that they all have their problems. The KV6 is the only engine I would absolutely rule out. I'd have a 1.8 or a diesel, but in my experience the diesel is cheaper to run, more flexible, and more reliable.
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Old 12th February 2019, 08:38   #49
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Guys who used to look after mine (both ex MG Rover mechanics)

1.8T
Looked after best of the bunch. Easy to work on

Diesel
Filthy horrible things to work on.

V6
Not so easy to work on

V8
Okay if you have a bottomless pit of petrol money (one of the guys had 2)
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Old 12th February 2019, 10:03   #50
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But....... I still love my 75. It's a truly great car with a character all of it's own.
In my opinion:
V6: Wouldn't have it in a gift. I've owned 3 and it is possibly one of the worst designed V6 engines ever made. The 2.0 KV6 is totally pointless, the 2.5 KV6 is equally pointless but thirstier.
Thirsty maybe but my V6 auto is not expensive at all to run because she is fuelled with full E85. I know it's of any use in the mainland, but at the moment trendy & a very bargain in France.
I've just done a few inexpensive mods: airbox, 2 resistors & a MIJ full ss derestricted exhaust (my genuine exhaust line was obviously corroded hence it should have been swapped anyhow).
But what a change!

Given that a tank is around 65L (14.5 gal), if we admit I've to fill it up from empty, it costs me 42€ i.e. £36.
And I can drive up to 520km (323ml) with a full tank (which is the only downside when doing long journeys - but lots of E85 stations here), that gives me around 23mpg (average on a one year period, 6/7k ml, always in sport mode), given that I need more E85 (+25%) than 95ron petrol. In petrol the equivalent would be 30mpg average.

Apart that mean & tight calculation (if one doesn't want to spend money when fuelling up a 75 V6, he may go for a small 4 cyl urban car), E85 on my KV6 2.5 cum mods gives me a more responsive & torquey engine than from stock with impressive kicks down. And nothing to be compared to regarding comfort, luxury, sound & smoothness...

She is a gem & I'm a happy bunny!
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