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I think this would be wrong, should a motion passed, that allowed the result to be overturned. We live in a democratic society and by the very nature of that, the leave was democratically decided upon, by a majority, albeit a small one, but a majority nonetheless. The Scottish independence referendum was a close run thing too, should it have been redone? I am in the remain camp incidentally, however as it was democratically voted for directly by the people involved, and not some politician biased by his/her own desires, I respect that result. I am willing to find out what will happen, and will accept it regardless. (and I do hope my fears and opinions are proven incorrect) If as a country we did go back to the polls and vote all over again, the UK will become a laughing stock, not to mention at risk of being invaded by the US looking for WMDs, subsequently have the govt. overthrown and a democratic one installed.
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The issue really is.with child care costs here taking 2/3rds of a weekly wage,some people are working a week for $100 AUD after paying child care costs. No matter what anyone says there is not substitute to having a parent at home if possible.All just depends on peoples priorities in life I guess. Last edited by genpk; 25th June 2016 at 00:32.. |
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One may take this principle and apply it to those affected by the closure of steel plants around the UK... Or any job- a large number have been lost in all professions! This is the biggest challenge ALL politicians have now; the fact is that most are out of touch with; and do not truly reflect and represent the communities they are elected to serve. Very few have been at the so called "Grass Roots" level... The referendum shows that "The grass roots" are extremely dissatisfied with the way they are being treated and are not about to be pushed around and threatened! I'd have thought that would obviousl when looking back through our history!
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As regards another referendum, there won't be another one to directly challenge this one. However, I can easily see there being one to approve, or otherwise, the deal Borris and Co broker with the EU to allow us access to the common market. The Tory party will hate it as it will look remarkably like EU membership, but with no voting rights. |
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Calais, is an agreement between France and GB.. Not an EU issue.
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Agreed (the Le Touquet Treaty?). But with the UK out of the EU, Calais is now the end of the EU immigration 'pipe' and I can't see them liking it. The French could include this issue in the two year 'divorce' negotiations that are triggered once Article 50 is invoked.
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This Facebook video I think should be openly watchable to all. I have seen this couple before on other videos, this is not a wind up. I wonder how many other people were so ill informed to vote one way or another?
Please note The video does contain bad language
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It certainly does make you wonder Clf
But are we really saying that this is the trouble with democracy and that some people should not vote....... I do not think it is democracy that is the problem - it is lack of education certainly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cecliv5BTNo There are plenty of examples of individuals making fools of themselves - witness the 80mph clips that abound on the net. But I really do despair at the accusations by some that the "oldies" swayed the vote and they should not have done because they will be dead soon. And of course the young did not bother to vote in a lot of cases and so handed "victory" to Brexit. The truth is that the vast majority voted as they did after a great deal of thought and analysis. Quote:
I notice the FTSE 100 closed at 6138 yesterday - just c. 3% down. Far better than I thought. The FTSE 250 was down 7% tho' - more in line with predictions and the greater inherent volatility of the 250. But overall - considering the incredible order of magnitude of our vote! - I have previously seen far greater one day volatility - so the predicted immediate market meltdown (mainly by the BBC I might add) never happened. It is early days tho - I do not expect the markets over the next few months will have a smooth ride. Edit........... Of far more interest is the effect on the European markets The French CAC closed around 8 percent lower on the day. Germany's DAX index fell as much as 10 percent before closing around 6.8 percent down. Italy's FTSE MIB and Spain's IBEX both closed more than 12 percent lower. Quite what sentiment the markets are showing is too early to say - but if this continues it would indicate that the already wounded EU is felt to be the bigger loser than the UK. Last edited by Dragrad; 26th June 2016 at 01:36.. Reason: Consecutive posts, please use the edit or multi-quote options ;-) |
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You're right but I'm afraid to say it's a typical stance of stick your hand in the sand and hope for the best. I flagged this up weeks ago and was met with the same self assured responses that it was a separate issue. Even I'm shocked how quickly this is now on the agenda only 8 hours after the leave announcement was made! Trust me - this is now up for grabs and I don't think we're in the driving seat with the negotiations that will follow and if I was on the French side I'd have exactly the same position. I hope it doesn't change but if it does then what an extraordinary own goal scored by the UK right at the start and I'd love to see the new government square this off with the UK particularly the good people of Kent!
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